Is DPS'ing as a Healer Vote Kickable?

[Parawill]

If a healer decides to DPS in their downtime, while keeping the group alive, a legitimate reason to vote kick someone? Asking, since word on the streets says that we're allowed to vote kick people for differentiating playstyles.

[DinahDemiurge]

of course not. you are expected to dps...if you are standing there doing nothing when everyone is at 100% health, you better be dealing damage.

[Bixillarla]

of course not. you are expected to dps...if you are standing there doing nothing when everyone is at 100% health, you better be dealing damage.

Better not get in a group with me then. I am there not heal and keep people alive not dps. I do not dps on my healers, if I want to dps then I will go on a dps job.

There is no requirement to dps as a healer, our job is to keep everyone alive so they can do their job.

[Lukha]

Better not get in a group with me then. I am there not heal and keep people alive not dps. I do not dps on my healers, if I want to dps then I will go on a dps job.

There is no requirement to dps as a healer, our job is to keep everyone alive so they can do their job.

Healers like you are why I almost never queue as anything else these days. I can't take seeing 1/4th of the party standing around doing nothing for ninety percent of the dungeon.

What on earth do you do to fill the time?

[Faliandra]

Healers like you are why I almost never queue as anything else these days. I can't take seeing 1/4th of the party standing around doing nothing for ninety percent of the dungeon.

What on earth do you do to fill the time?

I feel you! Sometimes I'd like to dps or tank,but I usually just take my WHM because I know I'll most likely do the same amount of dmg (or even more) than one dps on average and I i like my runs smooth and quick.
Also,sometimes it gets even worse and youre stuck with a healer that lets the tank drop down to 5% health and then even doesnt do any healing after you've popped Hallowed Ground/Living Dead/Holmgang to give them some more time
to heal you up. So you STILL die after it runs out. Ugh.

[Sylve]

Healers like you are why I almost never queue as anything else these days. I can't take seeing 1/4th of the party standing around doing nothing for ninety percent of the dungeon.

What on earth do you do to fill the time?

Personally, I spend the entire run frantically spamming every heal in my arsenal in a half hearted attempt to keep the party alive through massive overpulls while standing in the fire and forgetting that cooldowns exist.

When I'm not running out of MP healing idiots, I like to take long walks off short piers.

I hear you and in other games you'd be right, but in FFXIV healers have significant capacity to dps and not doing so when there's a window in which you could is deliberately holding your group back just because you want to be lazy.

Even in other games now, theres a focus on Healers being Healers as a secondary role to providing DPS.
Its actually why i like AST more than SCH or WHM.
As an AST, i spend my free time between heals setting up the biggest damage boosts i can for the party. If the Tank is good enough (Read: Can take more than 3 seconds to go from 100 - dead), Then I'll throw in some DoTs and maybe a nuke here and there.
Some parties have this idiotic demand that Healers spend more time dealing damage than actually keeping the party alive. And if you did't cast a damage spell in the last 4 seconds, you must be doing it wrong and holding up the party.
Its dependent on the party as a whole, as well as the encounter in question. Some fights just have too much unavoidable damage to apply much DPS while also maintaining heals.
Some people don't understand that and assume the healer (who is doing his/her best to keep the party alive, and thus doing damage) is just being 'lazy'.

Personally, I've been wishing that Bards had a Regen Song. It would be awesome to be able to support a Healer by reducing their burden enough that they felt more comfortable dropping some nukes.

I would also love to see Dancer as a right and proper Support Class (with enough healing power to dedicate itself to healing if it wanted to, or to focus on damage dealing) whose playstyle revolved around doing DPS while healing and buffing the party. It could be a lot of fun to play a Job like that.

[Callinon]

Some parties have this idiotic demand that Healers spend more time dealing damage than actually keeping the party alive. And if you did't cast a damage spell in the last 4 seconds, you must be doing it wrong and holding up the party.
Its dependent on the party as a whole, as well as the encounter in question. Some fights just have too much unavoidable damage to apply much DPS while also maintaining heals.
Some people don't understand that and assume the healer (who is doing his/her best to keep the party alive, and thus doing damage) is just being 'lazy'.

I like AST for that reason too. It's my preferred healing job. I think SCH leans a little more on the dps side because its fairy is capable of healing at full strength even when the SCH itself is throwing dots at things, WHM holy is just way too good to not abuse. AST's dps is kind of meh, but as you correctly pointed out they have other things they can be productively spending their time on.

As for the party's idea of when I should be dpsing... f that. It's 100% my call when it's safe to dps and when it isn't because it's my fault if everybody eats the ground while I'm doing it (assuming they didn't stand in the death). I'll dps when I feel it's safe to do so and at absolutely no other time and if they don't like it, I don't really care.

[BarbaricImpact]

First off, I just want to say that any healer who is not dpsing when there is room to dps is not using their class to the fullest extent. This means all you heal only players (used to be me) are using your class at a subpar level, which puts a strain on the effectiveness of your party.

To answer the question, people have different playstyles, so as long as you gave no other reason to be kicked (undergeared,toxic, blablabla), (>_<) technically, you can be kicked because the rest of the party did not want you to use your class correctly, OR because someone wanted to "Heal Only" causing the party to not meet certain dps requirements or time limits. As a summoner also I fortunately have the ability to pick up slack when others may fall off, and everyone has to remember that this is a team effort.

[Callinon]

Better not get in a group with me then. I am there not heal and keep people alive not dps. I do not dps on my healers, if I want to dps then I will go on a dps job.

There is no requirement to dps as a healer, our job is to keep everyone alive so they can do their job.

I hear you and in other games you'd be right, but in FFXIV healers have significant capacity to dps and not doing so when there's a window in which you could is deliberately holding your group back just because you want to be lazy.