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  1. #11
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    Fynlar Eira
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    To be fair, this is one of those situations where the answer is literally just "don't be upset."
    He's not really breaking rules. A disruption is only because people feel disrupted, not that there was any actual disruption in using the site or fourms.
    If you stop feeling disrupted, there's no disruption.
    ???

    "[says something blatantly offensive]"
    *people get offended*
    "well I did nothing wrong; it's your own fault for being so offended!"

    Necrobumping a bunch of old threads specifically to be disruptive is disruptive. Stop making excuses for it.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 09-29-2020 at 07:18 AM.

  2. #12
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Consider that there is a post limit for a moment and how many people post on these forums. If people actually ignored the necrotroll and didn't post in those threads then they would be quickly bumped off the first page by topics that people do care about and want to post in. Necrotrolls literally can't disrupt this forum unless others help him...so literally don't feed the troll and its not a problem.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    Consider that there is a post limit for a moment
    Consider that there is a moderating team for a moment. Funnily enough, they seem to be moderating people discussing about it, but not the problem itself. People shouldn't have to be fighting this troll like this to begin with. Also he has several accounts to bypass that limit. Even if his necro threads were ignored, he's bumping them constantly to front page and pushing everything out, or making his own troll threads copy pasted from past ones. Players have to constantly check other pages and sometimes the bumped threads to know it's not a necro from the already known troll. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.
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  4. #14
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    To be fair, this is one of those situations where the answer is literally just "don't be upset."
    He's not really breaking rules. A disruption is only because people feel disrupted, not that there was any actual disruption in using the site or fourms.
    If you stop feeling disrupted, there's no disruption.

    How long as "don't feed the trolls" been a rule? It's like Internet 101 here guys.
    From the rules themselves "Please do not make a simple post just for the purpose of "bumping" a thread."

    This individual is very clearly breaking this one.
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  5. #15
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    Consider that there is a post limit for a moment and how many people post on these forums. If people actually ignored the necrotroll and didn't post in those threads then they would be quickly bumped off the first page by topics that people do care about and want to post in. Necrotrolls literally can't disrupt this forum unless others help him...so literally don't feed the troll and its not a problem.
    That requires people to actually look at the date the thread was created, and when the most recent comments(yes, plural as in the last page, maybe two worth) were. But good luck having people read anything.
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  6. #16
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    Consider that there is a post limit for a moment and how many people post on these forums. If people actually ignored the necrotroll and didn't post in those threads then they would be quickly bumped off the first page by topics that people do care about and want to post in. Necrotrolls literally can't disrupt this forum unless others help him...so literally don't feed the troll and its not a problem.
    For that to work, the volume of other discussion across different threads has to outweigh the number of bumped threads.

    This additionally is a self-feeding problem because the bumped threads make it harder to see the actual active discussions (or making people avoid the forums entirely, at least until things settle), making it less likely for people to post.
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  7. #17
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    It IS a disruption, and a blatantly bannable one at that consdiering how much damage it is doing to the OFFICIAL FORUMS for the game. He is pushing all new, pertinent threads down and off the front page in order to fill the forum with old controversial threads that HE has decided he wants people to post in. It's becoming increasingly difficult to actually talk here about what's happening in the game NOW because of this. The forums are a dumpster fire right now and it's honestly unbelievable, even by SE's piss poor forum moderating standards, that nothing is being done. This guy is using level 80 accounts. He doesn't have an endless supply of them, so ban them as soon as they pop up and he will go away sooner or later. I've been reporting every single necro post I see him make and marking them as Trolling, and if everyone else that is being bothered by this did the same, maybe we'd see something done.
    There's this thing called page 2.
    There's even more pages, if the legends are to be believed.

    Go find topics you're interested in and post in them, stop fretting over topics you don't want to post in.


    Quote Originally Posted by M0rrigan View Post
    How do you just "don't get upset", though? Let's be real here. Even if you posted nothing about it, acting as if you ignored it, he knows it disrupts other people, because getting upset about not being properly able to use something is natural, and you can't just "hide" it from the troll, because he still knows it bothers people and if people don't complain and nothing is done about it, he wins.
    Here's how you don't get upset at it:

    I was actually going to just end the post there but I figure if I don't spell it out for people it may not get across correctly.
    Chill out. Stop putting too much investment over this activity. It's not the core of your existence at stake here. And you typing up a large post such as you did is completely counteracting your goal of stopping it. Again, Internet 101.
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    Last edited by Canadane; 09-29-2020 at 08:58 AM.

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  8. #18
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    Kuruai Naikrui
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    Regardless of whether or not you can ignore it, it's still actually breaking the rules he's not promoting discussion, he's actively suppressing it by forcing threads off front page by spamming 9 threads from 2018.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiurai View Post
    Regardless of whether or not you can ignore it, it's still actually breaking the rules he's not promoting discussion, he's actively suppressing it by forcing threads off front page by spamming 9 threads from 2018.

    For the record, I have never said this guy shouldn't be punished.
    I've just been anti-anti-necro for the longest time and well, now's the shining example I suppose. I'm not saying trolls shouldn't be punished.
    But also there are more than one page, I often peruse multiple pages of new posts before finding something I'd like to comment on. Just because the first page is his (and 9 out of 25 isn't a whole page) doesn't mean you can't find other places to discuss things.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    From the rules themselves "Please do not make a simple post just for the purpose of "bumping" a thread."

    This individual is very clearly breaking this one.
    Usually a bump is to one's own thread, and usually just a blurb like bump- they however usually write a short sentence that is vaguely (if not more) on topic.

    I'm not saying people are not allowed to be annoyed, or that he is clearly owning the front page some days lol, but if he called someone a name or wrote literally bump to a post, and that was all, I imagine he'd have a far swifter punishment.
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