WHM Rework Thread (Ideas and Suggestions are Welcome)

[currentlemon]

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1. I didn't know that. If what you said is true, then I'll remove the lily requirement for Stoneskin/Divine Benison.

2. I knew someone would bring this up. We can always switch this so that casting 3 Stone/Glare skills can cause the "Water" lily to bloom. The only reason I had it tied to healing skills is because WHM is Healer job, not DPS. I don't mind having this mechanic locked behind healing skills.

3. Made changes to my posts. All DoT times are down.

4. Changes made! All Stone/Glare spells and Aero/Dia spell potencies without their perspective lilies are nerfed on my posts. My request for Holy to be buffed also removed.

5. Divine Seal upgrades to Temperance at level 80 via a new trait. The skills are not separate from each other.

[Semirhage]

While adding more damage skills would certainly be more fun, I feel like it would move WHM away from the 'easy' healer it's meant to be.

Why would anyone want WHM to be 'fun'? In a game? Are you mad?

Not to call you out specifically, but this is exactly, exactly why I roll my eyes when I'm told on these forums that 'nobody' wants to pigeonhole WHM into being the catatonia inducing 2-button wunderkind. I see it every day around here.

[MartaDemireux]

A note on Divine Seal: the increase to healing will need to make it worth using over Afflatus heals. I don't think 15% on it's own will make up for a full potency heal. After 7 casts of Cure II/Afflatus Solace you'll gain what you would have gotten from just using an Afflatus Solace for example. That'd put it at needing to be around 20s duration to gain its benefit and the way the game is currently designed we aren't spamming Cure II for 20s straight to gain said benefit.

Maybe it would be better if it increased the potency of your next heal by 2x or your next two heals by 1.5x each while not having a duration. Then a lily isn't gone to waste when we're spamming DPS for 30-60s.

[Liam_Harper]

At this stage I just want the 1 sec weave window Malefic has to be standard on all 3 healers. It makes gameplay so much smoother and it's about time they stopped using clunkiness as a balancing factor. Going back to WhM after playing AST for a bit feels like picking up a broken class. You realize Glare doesn't weave and your next window is 18 sec away and it's depressing.
It makes high end ScH/WhM depressing too, because the most optimal way to play is spam Glare/Broil and let the AST heal because AST doesn't lose dps, has ample toolkit and their GcD's are worth less potency. If I want to provide the best for my raid/static, I shouldn't be trying to use my toolkit too much.

Definitely another dps ability. Another DoT like fluid Aura or Aero is a good candidate. Giving us a weave window could also allow something like a 2 charge oGcD instant dps ability that procs off Dia ticks or such (Glare would need a small nerf to balance).
Also there needs to be more damage going out in endgame. There's just too little to heal. It's more the frequency of damage that is the issue, Savage often has gaps of 60 sec or more where you barely need a heal, so we don't get enough chance to exercise those toolkits.

Apart from that I actually like WhM and don't feel it needs to be entirely redone.

[currentlemon]

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That's... actually an excellent idea! Since most of the time we're spamming Stone/Glare, having Divine Seal/Temperance boost your next few heals is a better alternative than a duration skill. Great suggestion. I'll add it to the list.

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I don't play AST so I don't know anything about its 1s weave window with Malefic. I forgot that WHM has a weaving issue. It's been a while since I played the job. I'm not sure how we can fix that. Need to think about it more