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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    you really should have seen this coming from his name and lack of attire
    why you didn't boot or report him is beyond me

    and it was a toxic player, not a toxic healer. all roles have done this behaviour
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsien View Post
    I'll be sure to let all the kicked tanks know that some average WHM thinks they should be allowed to waste everyone's time, though. You know, as a consolation.
    Stay classy.
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  3. 09-28-2020 07:23 AM
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsien View Post
    Would kick tank in baby stash
    Aaand we wonder why there's a tank shortage.

    In Expert, I totally get it. However if the tank was new to the dungeon I would probably cut them some slack for not knowing the enemy groupings.

    But to kick a tank in Satsasha is...pretty reprehensible unless the tank is just being a troll. You don't even need a tank in there and to waste time initiating a vote-kick when you can just go and start mowing down mobs just invalidates the 'waste of time' argument. Kicking anyone outside of the most modern content (unless again, the tank is just being a troll) is really just a dick move when it's far easier to just adjust and get thru the Duty.

    Waiting on a new tank is perhaps the biggest waste of time of all and should really be saved for those who truly deserve it. Because a kick doesn't teach a lesson or make a better player. It just mostly enables people to get away with being selfish and callous.
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  5. 09-28-2020 07:25 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsien View Post
    Wall to wall? Good. 2 packs? Fine enough. Single packs? Unacceptable that late into the game.
    I don't understand why this is such a controversial statement, lol. Single packs pull is already *too much* for mid-level dungeons, not to mention high-level ones. I mean, I'm not gonna kick a Tank that's doing it--well, not unless the rest of the group is in agreement to do so, hahaha, but single pack pull in late game dungeons is just..... well, I'm gonna raise my eyebrow when I see that, for sure.

    I mean like, the difference between pulling a single pack to at least two packs is really really minimal in terms of difficulty, hahaha.
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    Last edited by LaughingBanana; 09-28-2020 at 11:32 AM.

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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    Also, don't forget that H Switch at 71, for a new tank who's not coming geared to the ts from Stormblood is going to get battered even if they don't do the full first pull.
    Same gear jump as Bardam's and Doma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    Also, don't forget that H Switch at 71, for a new tank who's not coming geared to the ts from Stormblood is going to get battered even if they don't do the full first pull.
    Same gear jump as Bardam's and Doma.
    Every gear jump that is Stormblood+ sucks tbh, even HSwitch -> Dohn Mheg sucks but mostly because Dohn Mheg has a lot going on and majority of the mobs have mini tank busters lol.
    Even full 500ilvl Tank & Healer doing full pulls on Amaurot sucks (or rather 440ilvl because sync) when DPS are new.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    The issue I see is healer downtime seriously needs to be addressed. Only a healer can misbehave in this manner and still fulfill their minimum requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The issue I see is healer downtime seriously needs to be addressed. Only a healer can misbehave in this manner and still fulfill their minimum requirement.
    Honestly I don't have any downtime healing - the mechanics are there for healers to be active, it's a player issue not a game one.
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