The Thirteenth's time line flow (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

[SannaR]

Sorry of this was brought up in another thread, but do we know how out or in flux the 13th is with the other shards and the Source?

Assuming of course that it was the first attempt at a rejoining it seems to have an odder time line than the First has with the source. I can't how long ago on the source the first appearances of voidsent is. I do know that at least 1,200 years ago there was plenty since you can't make an ark that's powered by them if you didn't know they existed.

Yet we also know Elidibus at least wishked away Unhakalhi from it and he only seems to have appeared on the source recently. I don't remember who what's her name said plucked her from the 13th, with the same bait Elidibus used on Ardbert and friends later on, and plopped her onto the 1st. To encourage them so that the 1st could then be ready for a rejoining. At which time she was to kill them all. Only to still be around a hundred years after the flood started.

Then we have a voidsent pop in with Ryne's new bestie who says she's from Elumore even though no one seems to have remembered her?. That being present day on the 1st.

I mean this wonky time line and time sync could just be another thing that's like this because the writers want to use the void, but aren't seemingly sure how exactly they want to. While also trying not to get themselves into a corner with putting in a proper time line.

[Rannie]

Seeing how both Cyella and U boy are both dead by the time Elidibus plucked them from the 13th they can live for ages as they are at this point akin to Ascians. From what they have gone about was Igyeorm was responsible for the whole void and it was their first attempt at trying to cause a rejoining and failing spectacularly.

The whole thing with the Oracle of darkness is a bit different. I dont remember then equating those things with her as voidsent but I could be misremembering it.. id have to recheck that cutscene honestly.

Edit: also it doesn't seem that implausible that the Eulomorans couldn't remember one haughty, over bearing (to begin with) spoiled child. They all were pretty much like that so she most likely blended in.

[Cilia]

It's variable as the writers see fit.

The Flood occurred 100 years ago First time, but it can't have been more than a couple years Source time. Conversely, the other Scions were called to the First a few weeks / couple months before the PC Source time, but it's been years for them when we get to there.

As for the Thirteenth, it's... unclear. Remember that by most measures time no longer has meaning there.

EDIT
Unukalhai (and I'd wager Cylva as well) were held in stasis by Elidibus until he had use of them. As I recall the Sundering was ~12,500 years ago, and the Allagans were messing with artificial voidsent before the fall of their empire ~5,000 years ago. Relative to Source time the Flood of Darkness on the Thirteenth would take place somewhere between the two.

[Alleluia]

The first actual calamity was roughly a million years ago (Eorzean time) per the Encyclopedia Eorzea.

Can I have a link for that? Cus my Encyclopedia Eorzea does not say that. It mentions a "thousand thousand years" that precede the first calamity?

[Eloah]

Can I have a link for that? Cus my Encyclopedia Eorzea does not say that. It mentions a "thousand thousand years" that precede the first calamity?

A thousand thousand is a million (1000x1000=1000000), so he's probably using that as a jumping off point since it's really the only time frame we have. Even tne book states the first calamity wasn't fully identified until like the 6th Umbral era. The main history we know is only about 1572 years or so. And we know that some of the eras that proceed the 6th Astral Era are thousands of years prior to that.

[Iscah]

A thousand thousand is a million (1000x1000=1000000)

A "thousand thousand" is also used poetically in the game to mean a large but non-specific number. And to "precede" is to come before. Therefore, the span of time prior to the first calamity, which at the point of writing was a mystery.

The exact line is speculating the "evolution of [mankind] in the thousand thousand years preceding the first calamity", so setting up the question of an evolutionary vs mythical origin for the human races - although in this case the mythical seems to have won out.

[Eloah]

A "thousand thousand" is also used poetically in the game to mean a large but non-specific number. And to "precede" is to come before. Therefore, the span of time prior to the first calamity, which at the point of writing was a mystery.

The exact line is speculating the "evolution of [mankind] in the thousand thousand years preceding the first calamity", so setting up the question of an evolutionary vs mythical origin for the human races - although in this case the mythical seems to have won out.

I am aware, I was updating my response to better fit what I was actually trying to imply. Instead of just trying to look "smart" but showcasing how ill informed I was.

Updating in a phone is not fun, T.T

[Rosenstrauch]

I think, in the case of Gaia, there's a completely reasonable explanation as to how she could live in Eulmore without her fellow citizens knowing much, if at all about her. Basically, she's a hikikomori. A shut-in, a neet, a hermit, or whatever word you'd prefer.

We know she's about the same age as Ryne, meaning she was born after Vauthry came to power in Eulmore. And Vauthry is the man responsible for the state of affairs in Eulmore. It's not out of the question that Gaia could have all her needs tended to without having to interact with anyone outside of strictly necessary engagements. And with how "eccentric" the free citizens of Eulmore had been up to Vauthry getting ousted, it shouldn't be too surprising that they'd overlook the behavior of one girl who doesn't do anything, but also doesn't get in anyone's way by dint of not doing anything. There's also the matter of her belongings—if she wasn't actually from Eulmore, I imagine it'd cause a bit of trouble for her to just up and claim all the luggage she came into the second wing of Eden with.

Of course, for all we know the third wing could reveal that she's actually from before the Flood, and spent a considerable amount of time in the Thirteenth's... space?... before returning sometime before Vauthry flew the coop. But if that was the case, I think she'd have to be lying to herself in her own thoughts, which is really hard to justify from a writing standpoint. I would have to go back over her "dialogue" to point out exactly why, but as I recall she thinks about her parents living under Vauthry's rule at one point.

[Rannie]

I was meaning first calamity as in the first one after the sundering and used a million like I said as a rough guestimation on when it occured before the 7th. I know its not an exact number so given that the 13th became the void before that...

Ill even admit its really a rough guestimate

[Enkidoh]

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the Terminus and the Sundering only a scant 12000 years ago? That kind of contradicts the "First Calamity was a million years ago" by many orders of magnitude It wouldn't be the first contradiction in the Lorebook if that was the case though.