How is crossbreeding Jute and Tantalplant?

[Angelhearth]

I'm crossbreeding Tantalplant and Royal Kukuru, the old trusted method. But I was wondering about changing it with Jute. How will that work? It's 1 day longer, but the reward seems a little better in terms of Jute actually being worth something.

[Vidu]

Personally I prefer the Jute x Chocobo Food cross for a number of reasons:

1) Jute is actually useful (as you said)
2) Jute can be crossed with 4 of the Chocobo Foods (Tantal, Syklis, Mimett and Phasana) to produce Thavnair Onion seeds - meaning: You're not limited to using Tantalplant seeds if you cant get a hold of them, for example.
3) Jute x Mandrake is an easy cross to get Jute seeds back.

Personally I'm alternatigen a Jute x Chocobo food seed with a Jute x Mandrake seed cross - given the growth time of the jute, I can use one set of plants for two crossbreeds, constantly alternatigen between mandrake and chocobo food. Works well enough for me.

Generally speaking: Non of the Thavnair Onion crosses are great - no matter which one you use, you gotta be prepared to not always get the seeds you want. Changing to jute wont change that - but at least the stuff you harvest will be worth something.

[Shadygrove]

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When crossbreeding chocobo food and 7 day plants like Jute I tend to overplant once I harvest either giving me quite a few T onion seeds in a 35 day rotation.

As well as jute there is Broombush, Blood Pepper, and Glazenut for other 7 day worthwhile plants.

[Angelhearth]

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When crossbreeding chocobo food and 7 day plants like Jute I tend to overplant once I harvest either giving me quite a few T onion seeds in a 35 day rotation.

As well as jute there is Broombush, Blood Pepper, and Glazenut for other 7 day worthwhile plants.

I use Ivory's Advanced, but am wondering if there are better seeds to use than Tantalplant, so I can harvest all 8 and not only th 5 Jute, and if there are any combinations that are better than others.

[Vidu]

I use Ivory's Advanced, but am wondering if there are better seeds to use than Tantalplant, so I can harvest all 8 and not only th 5 Jute, and if there are any combinations that are better than others.

What do you mean by "harvest all 8"? You can - and should - harvest all 8 plants, just staggered (aka: harvesting the 4 that are ready for harvest, replant those, wait 1-2 days for the other type of plant to be ready, harvest and replant those). After your initial set-up where you might choose to destroy the first plant you put in the ground, you should be in a loop that you can keep up for as long as you want.

The type of Premimum Chocobo Food seed shouldnt matter - so Tantalplant isnt better than Sylkis, Mimett or Phasana. One advantge of jute in my book is, as I explained, that you can use those 4 types of seeds or any combination of them, depending on what you can get a hold off (aka: lets say you're crossbreeding Tantal-seeds yourself, but one harvest falls short. In that case you can buy the cheapest of those 4 seeds from the marketboard instead of being locked to Tantalplant).

As far as I'm aware all Thavnair Onion cross breeds between a Premimum Chocobo Food and some "premium plant" (jute, galzenut, broombush etc.) are equally good - or bad, if you will. Theres not advantge to using one premium seed over the other, except for maybe the usefulness of the actual crop in the end - different chocobo foods might sell for different prices, aswell as different "premium" crops being priced differently.

Onion breeding will always suck - at least a little bit - and you'll always have to deal with not getting the seeds you want.

I'm currently in the process of supplying my FC with Onions, so heres what I'm doing:

I'm using 3 beds at the moment, though 2 would be enough, the third one is a saftey measure.

First bed:
Jute x Chocobo Food => Thavnair Onion/Shroud Tea alternating with Jute x Mandrake => Jute
I started with the Jute x Mandrake cross, which allowed me to start by planting a throw-away seed (aka Mandrake) - that cross gives me my jute-seeds back. Each time mandrakes are ready, I replant with chocobo food and vise verca. Jute gets replanted with jute as soon as ready to harvest.

Second bed:
Thavnair Onion x Shroud/Coerthan Tea => Sylkis bud/Mandrake
Its not a great cross for premimum chocobo food, but it also gives me mandrake-seeds and is efficient enough for my purposes most of the time. You could use other seeds to cross with the onion to get a different premimum chocobo food seed, but I'm getting Shroud Tea from my first bed and Coerthan Tea is super easy to gather in bulk, so I went for this one.

Third bed:
Coerthan Tea x Chocobo Dye Food => Sylkis bud/Mandrake
This one is optional and more a type of "back up" if the second bed doesnt produce enough seeds. Since the food thats used to dye your chocobo only takes 2 days to grow, its quick and I probably wont keep this in an instant loop but rather plant whenever I'm a bit shorter on Syklis buds than I'd like to be.

This might not be great for "mass producing" Thavnair Onions, since they're being used in a cross rather than just planting a full garden bed with them, but once you have the initial seeds ready to set this up and arent super unlucky, you can keep this up forever (and maybe even get some "bonus-seeds" that arent going back into this cross).

[Angelhearth]

What do you mean by "harvest all 8"?

If you follow the link and go to crossbreeding and check Ivory's Advanced you'll see that you keep 3 Tantalplants and only the remaining 5 plants.

[Jojoya]

If you follow the link and go to crossbreeding and check Ivory's Advanced you'll see that you keep 3 Tantalplants and only the remaining 5 plants.

Note the guide specifies "compact" for players with access to only a single Deluxe Garden Patch.

If you have access to more than one, there are better methods.

[Angelhearth]

Note the guide specifies "compact" for players with access to only a single Deluxe Garden Patch.

If you have access to more than one, there are better methods.

That doesn't cost an arm and a leg? I have 3.

[Vidu]

If you follow the link and go to crossbreeding and check Ivory's Advanced you'll see that you keep 3 Tantalplants and only the remaining 5 plants.

You havent provided a link, but anyways - I believe I have answered your question then? Using the method I suggested above, you'll always harvest all plants you planted, its designed to re-produce all the expensive seeds you need to use (by getting jute back with jute x mandrake and utilising the Thavnair Onions to get Premimum Chocobo Food seeds) and the only seeds you need to put in are cheap ones (Coerthan Tea, maybe on occassion dye-food - those seeds are available for the old hunt-marks, you can get 100 of those hunt-marks per week easy enough).

[Angelhearth]

You havent provided a link, but anyways - I believe I have answered your question then? Using the method I suggested above, you'll always harvest all plants you planted, its designed to re-produce all the expensive seeds you need to use (by getting jute back with jute x mandrake and utilising the Thavnair Onions to get Premimum Chocobo Food seeds) and the only seeds you need to put in are cheap ones (Coerthan Tea, maybe on occassion dye-food - those seeds are available for the old hunt-marks, you can get 100 of those hunt-marks per week easy enough).

If you bother reading the whole thread you'll see a link to the place that has the most knowledge about gardening, in FFXIV. Follow it and read the crossbreeding section. Then come back and tell me I screwed up.