FF16 stealing dev time from FF14

[Auryan]

I would like to very well believe that it is a different team of course. But with all the issues 5.X has brought currently, you can't help but feel that there is something up. Also, don't forget that HW expansion they actually borrowed people from different division to work on it.
What makes you think SQEX won't do it here? Unless of course you have the evidence to back it up.
Look, before you go judgmental on people remember this, we all love FFXIV and we want the best for it for many years to come else nobody would bother to take the effort to even post here.
If you still don't believe me that content & features has been dropping the past few years, take a look at 3.1 - 5.3 trailer, i'm sure the video can speak many words.

Tsalmaveth doesn't have to do any of that. They aren't the one making a claim. The burden of proof lies squarely on the people suggesting that XVI's development is siphoning resources from XIV. And so far there hasn't any single credible proof of this. An obvious troll thread and anger towards dev choices aren't convincing.

[Amnmaat]

If they did indeed hire a sizable amount of devs for XVI, this brings into question why Yoshida acts like they can't find talented people to expand the XIV dev team?
As we all know, they are struggling to keep up with the game. Dancer/Gunbreaker weapons, no Viera/hrothgar hair/hats/helmet, 1 dungeon per patch, no relic quests until a year later, etc. So what is Square enix really up to? Are they taking the 1.0-A Realm Reborn lessons for granted?

[Kiurai]

MMOs usually require different training if I'm not mistaken usually why they need more people for it.

[RTX3080]

Its a separate development team. Pretty sure the only people borrowed were a few story writers, Yoshi P and Soken.

Wrong lol.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Stunning insight and a well-reasoned argument.

[Floortank]

"FFXIV stole from FFXVI" is factually incorrect.

FFXIV's current development involves more work/budget/developers than ever before, but the game has gotten larger from patch to patch, expansion to expansion. When a game expands vertically, like with increasing the level cap, that's one thing. But when it expands horizontally, like adding more races or Jobs that need custom content (headgear for new heads, Job gear for new jobs), the workload expands into new areas of required support and maintenance, meaning support for other things must get dropped.

They have hit a point in the game's development where, for every utterly new feature or innovation they make to the game, somewhere else in the game, something is left undeveloped. Yoshi-P made a post about this at the beginning of Shadowbringers, when he was discussing the reasons why there aren't two genders for the new races. Problems of time and budget cannot be solved by hiring more people and throwing more bodies at the problem, because literally everything they do has a cost in time and QA, and in order for the game to maintain its high standards, they can't exceed a certain amount of development.

So they focus on making high quality content, but know their limits and don't exceed those, either in their budget of time, or money, all of which includes QA testing and management.

So yes, it has led to things which I find to be very objectionable. I don't like that they put new races into the game unfinished. I don't like that Dancer and Gunbreaker are missing ultimate weapons and many equivalent primal glamours other Jobs get. I think the decision to go without these features in order to stick to the work / QA budget is questionable in some places and just flat out wrong in others.

I am not apologizing for them, but nonetheless, I 100% understand the decision.

In essence, Division 3 can't be the reason FFXIV is lacking features, because if they took that entire team and put it to work on FFXIV, it would increase their QA/developmental overhead beyond the limits of FFXIV's update/QA/budget structure.

You can't fix these problems by simply throwing more money or bodies at them. They are problems of horizontal expansion, of adding more lateral rather than vertical content to the game.

[Floortank]

According to Wikipedia, Business Division 3 is now part of Creative Business Unit 1, not part of Yoshida's CBU 3.

Wikipedia is misleading.

Recently, many employees were shifted around as several Business Divisions were closed. Division 1 is Kitase/Nomura, and is handling FF7R. Perhaps what Wikipedia means is that many of the employees of Division 3 were moved over to Division 1 when Nomura finished Kingdom Hearts III.

Division 3 was structurally and functionally a different division at the end of 2018 than it is now. It had studios in Osaka as well as Tokyo and handled Kingdom Hearts, largely. But the people in Division 3 now were not a part of those projects. They have been working on FFXVI since before Kingdom Hearts III wrapped up.

They were FFXIV (14) developers who worked on Heavensward for Division 5.

[RTX3080]

Wikipedia is misleading.

I trust Wikipedia over the random posts of a stranger on the Internet

[Floortank]

I trust Wikipedia over the random posts of a stranger on the Internet

Nice troll tho.

[linayar]

They were FFXIV (14) developers who worked on Heavensward for Division 5.

Then just call them BD5. Saying they're BD3 just causes confusion.