Other healers sniping, can’t get heals off

[jamjeeshoul77]

How do I deal with this? I play with controller so it takes me a little bit longer to target people. If it’s predictable damage sure I can get a heal off if I time it right, but most of the time (i do “easier” content so people tend to get hit by avoidable damage) the other healer heals someone to full literally 0.2 seconds after they get hit. So I really never get to heal. It leave me feeling like a gimped dps every run I do as a healer...there’s no way my reaction time will ever be that fast, oh wel. I just wish people weren’t so good I guess xD healing feels like more of a competition than dps tbh

[Jaelommiss]

It leave me feeling like a gimped dps every run I do as a healer...

That's a good summary of healer play in this game.

If your cohealer is healing overly aggressively it's best to let them handle it. Monitor the party and be ready to step in if they need assistance, but don't waste you time fighting over who gets to heal and who overheals. At the end of the day it doesn't matter who provides the healing as long as it happens. Excess healing is worthless. Excess damage ends fights sooner, reduces the number of mechanics the party is exposed to, and reduces opportunities for failure.

It also doesn't matter at all how fast someone is healed so long as it happens before the next instance of lethal damage. Heal over time effects are so potent that there's a strong case that it's detrimental to top people off with instant heals unless absolutely necessary.

[Gemina]

If you want to engage more in reactive healing, dungeons are a slight option though not the most ideal. You will likely have to resort to GCD heals if the tank pulls wall to wall, or on the second pull if he splits it in half. Some players don't know/don't remember/don't care about the mechanics for dungeon bosses, and might require healing to keep them up. Since you're the only healer, you will have no competition.

In 8-man, the previous poster is correct in not competing with another healer if they have it handled. Just go ahead and DPS while keeping your eye on your co healer in case they need assistance. It's can be a bit boring smashing one button, but your co healer can slip in a moments notice, and you will need to step in. It's ok for you to hold onto your healing ogcds in this case as well, and feel free to still toss out shields. Some healers are just like tanks with their aggro, and they will arm wrestle you all day for the primary duty. Just let them have it, especially if they have it covered. It makes things better for the entire group.

24-man provides ample opportunity to do reactive healing. Sometimes the older raids like Dun Scaith or Orbonne require more healing than the recent raids because a lot of players are not actually new, but rather don't remember the mechanics along with new players being in there. Those can be a lot of fun. You will have fewer skills, but as a healer you are far less affected by this than DPS and tank jobs (one of the benefits to the healer status quo I guess).

24-man also will often require healers to support their other two alliances. Pay attention to the composition of the other alliances to see how much rezz support they have (RDMs and SMNs in their groups). Even then, you can and will encounter alliances where all their medics are dead. Step in. You can target their members by holding down L1 and then use left/right on the D-pad. Use each accordingly so you have less button presses to get to your target.

Try not to get too discouraged. Best of luck out there.

[Nabian]

You can target their members by holding down L1 and then use left/right on the D-pad.

Been playing since 1.0...and I NEVER knew you could do this....you have made my day lol

[Ilyrian]

Play SCH or Noct AST and pre-shield.

[LaughingBanana]

How do I deal with this? I play with controller so it takes me a little bit longer to target people. If it’s predictable damage sure I can get a heal off if I time it right, but most of the time (i do “easier” content so people tend to get hit by avoidable damage) the other healer heals someone to full literally 0.2 seconds after they get hit. So I really never get to heal. It leave me feeling like a gimped dps every run I do as a healer...there’s no way my reaction time will ever be that fast, oh wel. I just wish people weren’t so good I guess xD healing feels like more of a competition than dps tbh

If I ever paired with a player that does that I just focus on Dia/Glare/Holy/Malefic/Combust/Gravity and let them do their thing, lol.

Recently I am enamored with Astrologian and situatuons like these let me play with my cards more! Which I like, hahaha.

Just get ready to step in when things turn for the worse, especially since "HEAL FULL HP ALL THE TIME" is very MP consuming and not really efficient and healers that do that may not have the necessary MP to help the party when the situation suddenly demands it.

[Liam_Harper]

Leave them to it.

I just wish people weren’t so good I guess xD

Sadly they aren't good. Split second reactive healing is very often wasted healing, unless someone is likely to die from a mechanic in the next few seconds. Very often raidwides and aoe are spaced out with long waits between them. If the next raidwide is 20 sec away, chances are an oGcD or HoT will take care of it or something like Assize will come off cd. If your co-healer reacted immediately to top the party off, they wasted your healing, their own resources and party dps through lost GcD's.

Best advice is do not aim to be a reactive healer. It's fine while progging or on a new fight when you have no idea when the next raidwide will happen, but as you learn the fight aim to map it out. Let HoT's and oGcD's do as much work as possible. If your co-heal snipes you on that, all you can do is spam dps. Competing with them only hurts your performance.

[Limonia]

I just had a Puppets' Bunker run with a co-healer like that. I sat on my lily stacks all the time, while he kept Medica II up and used Cure I to top off people all the time. Never saw an Asylum from him, and when I casted one he just overhealed it anyway. It's even more boring if all you press is Glare and a Dia here and there.

He even did DPS a little. At least I saw a couple of Glare casts whenever everyone's HP were full. So why overheal like crazy? Why even use Medica II after Plenary Indulgence + Afflatus Rapture?

Usually, when I use Assize as soon as it's up it at least tops people off. This run it was pure overheal all the time... I only used a few Rapture and Solace so that it doesn't look like I'm not healing at all, but only like 3-4 were even necessary when people didn't dodge AoEs.

[Liam_Harper]

He even did DPS a little. At least I saw a couple of Glare casts whenever everyone's HP were full. So why overheal like crazy? Why even use Medica II after Plenary Indulgence + Afflatus Rapture?

It's a big problem with healing, particularly WhM. You can play the wrong way all the way to 80, through lv80 content and even into the first few Savage bosses and get away with it. Nothing teaches you how to play better, requires it or encourages it.

Your WhM in question (forgive me for having a glance, I just get curious) wasn't even overhealing badly at all. But they used Assize only as a heal, never used PoM, never used Asylum, barely touched their lilies, almost never used Benison or Plenary and seemed to love throwing Regen around. And it worked fine.

That's why healing's a mess. You can mash any aoe heal and poke Glare at random intervals and it'll carry you through most of the game. That's what healer has been reduced to.

[Eclipse12187]

It’s an inherent problem with WHM, it has such powerful GCD heals and MP restoration tools they can literally shovel out healing without a care in the world and be fine. Unfortunately unless your cohealer dies or you’re solo healing you never need such on demand healing. If my cohealer wants to do that I just fully embrace my glare mage green dps gameplay and look for spots I can dump my lilies (movement or downtime) and just keep on glaring.