Tanks should have their own variant of "Rescue"

[Fynlar]

I'd rather Rescue not be in the game at all, not have even more people be able to use it.

Not sure why they removed knock backs from DPS and WHM

Because they were annoying and tended to just slow melee damage/AoE down. It was particularly egregious when Fluid Aura / Blank / etc. had damage tied to the skills, because you'd *have* to use them in order to maximize your own damage output, even if it ended up slowing down the output of your frontline.

Even when they removed damage from those skills, it wasn't enough, because people still ended up spamming the skills anyway purely to be annoying.

If you want to hogtie a mob somewhere to be left alone for a while, there's bind/sleep skills for that. Knockbacks just aren't really needed, other than stuff like Masked Carnivale where they designed BLU content specifically around it (and it's fine there, because it's solo content)

[AdamFyi]

Admitedly, this isn't possible 100% of the time, most notably in Anyder (lvl 80 dungeon from 5.2) between the 1st an 2nd bosses, the walls arent high enough and the mobs can see you over them, so they dont move.

Actually you can LoS them. Once you head up the slope going up, keep running to the left until you’re about halfway between the corridor walls (but don’t actually go into that corridor) that leads to the second boss. Then you just double back and pull the pack towards the casters who should be just about gathered near the top of the slope and running towards you but stopping at the pillar.

[Limonia]

I think this is a great idea! It would probably work only on normal enemies anyway and not on bosses, so it wouldn't be too overpowered. It would be great for dungeons.
Yes, you can LoS the enemies, but often you have overeager DPS that just attack the ranged enemy like crazy or a healer who casts a Regen on you before pull and the enemies are all over the place, which can get infuriating.
So if the draw-in has a longer CD it wouldn't be up every time, and you wouldn't be able to use it on all pulls, so you'd still have to position yourself and the enemies.

[Eloah]

Tanks do have a version of Rescue, it's called Shirk, lol.

[Liam_Harper]

So, basically Death Grip and Gorefiend's Grasp from WoW. I do miss those, they were very fun to use, although we have far less ranged caster mobs than WoW in dungeons.

[RajNish]

Actually you can LoS them. Once you head up the slope going up, keep running to the left until you’re about halfway between the corridor walls (but don’t actually go into that corridor) that leads to the second boss. Then you just double back and pull the pack towards the casters who should be just about gathered near the top of the slope and running towards you but stopping at the pillar.

It's enough to wait at the bottom left at the stairs leading to the second boss (stand in the corner all the way), they all come.

[MagiusNecros]

Being able to yank ranged enemies into the group would be so satisfying.

*Blue Mage laughs in Sticky Tongue*

[LineageRazor]

Not anymore, they removed the knockback effect on it.

But back when it WAS still a knockback, I'd occasionally run into WHMs that would use it to push ranged enemies into the group. Loved them so much!

As a tank, when I know ranged enemies are coming, I'll typically pull a bit further (rather than stop at the last cluster of mobs) so that the ranged mobs group up, and then pull the rest of the horde on top of them for aoes.

And, inevitably when I do that, the AST will wind up dropping their Earthly Star or the NIN their Doton on the horde, rather than on the smaller cluster of ranged mobs, so when I double back I wind up pulling the horde out of it. *sigh*

[TheMightyMollusk]

Give me back Blank Shot on MCH. It was great for knocking those pesky ranged enemies back into the pile.

[Yencat]

But back when it WAS still a knockback, I'd occasionally run into WHMs that would use it to push ranged enemies into the group. Loved them so much!

I used to do that as well, but it was a little finicky and that was about its only use outside of trolling your friends so I can't say I miss it that much. But now it's just... Kinda there?