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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameovers View Post
    FF fans aren't WRPG fans tho. What I mean by that is WRPG fans were most likely not the target group for a large part of the Final Fantasy fanbase and just adding a blank CC for a numbered single player FF game would do it no service.
    In what way would a cc do FFXVI no service? I see no drawbacks to it, in fact it can only benefit Yoshida's team in their pursuit to one day upgrade FFXIV's cc. You're talking about the same franchise which prides itself on experimenting and breaking boundaries; if we have DMC styled combat, California/Nevada as a setting (FFXV), why would a cc as a bonus feature do the game no service? Even japanese rpgs are including, as the aforementioned White Knight Chronicles, Code Vein, and others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    In what way would a cc do FFXVI no service? I see no drawbacks to it, in fact it can only benefit Yoshida's team in their pursuit to one day upgrade FFXIV's cc. You're talking about the same franchise which prides itself on experimenting and breaking boundaries; if we have DMC styled combat, California/Nevada as a setting (FFXV), why would a cc as a bonus feature do the game no service? Even japanese rpgs are including, as the aforementioned White Knight Chronicles, Code Vein, and others.
    For the fact that other than this very game here. ( Even though you can make a debate if it's so lately ) Most FF titles the main character is a character you play as, so they can tell their story to the fullest without dealing with the silent protag thing. We wouldn't have major fan favs like Squall, Cloud, Lighting, etc etc if a CC was in there. Not a full one anyway, and I don't think a mainline FF nonmmo game will ever put one in. Now if you're talking about something like being able to change the clothes and whatnot like what we got in Lighting returns or FF15 then that's fine. And I think that's as far as they would go honestly... unless their making another mmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameovers View Post
    For the fact that other than this very game here. ( Even though you can make a debate if it's so lately ) Most FF titles the main character is a character you play as, so they can tell their story to the fullest without dealing with the silent protag thing. We wouldn't have major fan favs like Squall, Cloud, Lighting, etc etc if a CC was in there. Not a full one anyway, and I don't think a mainline FF nonmmo game will ever put one in. Now if you're talking about something like being able to change the clothes and whatnot like what we got in Lighting returns or FF15 then that's fine. And I think that's as far as they would go honestly... unless their making another mmo.
    Up until XV no FF had done an action type combat system like you'd see in Kingdom Hearts or Devil may cry.
    So the up until now phrase is very hollow when it comes to FF

    Moreover, I don't think you're understanding what it means to add a cc to create an off shoot character. This character will not be the one you control as you go through the story. It'll just be one of the options in your party, mainly for battle content and specialized quests. The way it would work is that the choice is yours, to use the main character as the character you do battle content with or you use the regular cast, but giving you that choice adds a lot of value to the game; cc is being seen as a widely accepted part of any modern "adventure/rpg" type game. Even games which are story heavy like Assasin's Creed eventually figured out where the trend was going, the trend is going to character creator. It doesn't take away from the main game and its story, it just adds more value to the game beyond just a 50 hour story clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    In what way would a cc do FFXIV no service? I see no drawbacks to it, in fact it can only benefit Yoshida's team in their pursuit to one day upgrade FFXIV's cc. You're talking about the same franchise which prides itself on experimenting and breaking boundaries; if we have DMC styled combat, California/Nevada as a setting (FFXIV), why would a cc as a bonus feature do the game no service? Even japanese rpgs are including, as the aforementioned White Knight Chronicles, Code Vein, and others.
    Even though I don’t really like creating a character for JRPG, but I get your point and I do support variety of a cast of characters, diversity, and customizations.

    Agree that it can get tiring to get another cast of 4 emo guys again, so sure, hope there will be some female party members who are equally important and other members. Also, if we can customize hair styles, accessories, tattoos, scars, and clothes, I’m okay with those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Up until XV no FF had done an action type combat system like you'd see in Kingdom Hearts or Devil may cry.
    So the up until now phrase is very hollow when it comes to FF
    I like how people casually forgets the recent FF7 remake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    I like how people casually forgets the recent FF7 remake...
    To be fair to them the remake is post FFXV.

    I haven't played the remake but the action combat in FFXV was kinda meh. I had absolutely no idea what I was doing most of the time and never died. There was probably some depth to be had in the combat but it was lost on me as I just spammed warp strike on the final boss until he died.

    FFXVI, if it has a combat designer from DMC, does have a chance to be more meaningfully deep with its combat system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    To be fair to them the remake is post FFXV.

    I haven't played the remake but the action combat in FFXV was kinda meh. I had absolutely no idea what I was doing most of the time and never died. There was probably some depth to be had in the combat but it was lost on me as I just spammed warp strike on the final boss until he died.

    FFXVI, if it has a combat designer from DMC, does have a chance to be more meaningfully deep with its combat system.
    The difference between FF XV and FF7R's combat is like night and day. FF7R was vastly superior on that front though, in my opinion. It also had a fair amount of depth to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The difference between FF XV and FF7R's combat is like night and day. FF7R was vastly superior on that front though, in my opinion. It also had a fair amount of depth to it.
    I have been holding off on FF7 because it's just a chapter and not a complete game.

    Although I've been told this is the wrong line of thinking and that the content released so far clocks in at about the same length as FFXV so I may have to rethink things and get the game.

    I've been intrigued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    So, just to clarify, you are still controlling the main character since you said you don't have to create this other "invisible" character? I'm fine with that as an option. I just won't use it as it seems pointless to create such a character in terms of the story, unless it adds to the combat mechanics.

    But if it adds to the combat mechanics, then that would suck since then I would feel forced to make such a character. Basically, as long as it's an option that I can safely ignore, I think it's fine. Maybe make it a new game+ feature where you can create a character after you've completed the story with the actual characters.
    I guess then it’s like creating a retainer mechanic. Yes you can create the looks but not a main character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hycinthus View Post
    I guess then it’s like creating a retainer mechanic. Yes you can create the looks but not a main character.
    Yeah, probably, and since retainers don't affect combat directly or story, I'm fine with that. I even have one for added space.
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