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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    2. There has been exactly one sale on mounts/costumes/minions/barding since I've started playing which was about 16 months ago. Having sales this far apart is not helpful.
    We just had a store-wide sale that ended less than a month ago. The one before that was during last year's Rising - I remember that because I was expecting to wait the year for it to come around again.

    Inbetween I'm sure we've had smaller sales, though they weren't what I was looking for personally. But even if there wasn't anything else within your definition, we have certainly had at least two sales in your time here so either you're not watching that closely or you're exaggerating.
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  2. #32
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    I want you to go play Tera and ESO or any EA game and come back to this one.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    . Lower your prices to something reasonable.
    Their prices are already competitive and comparable to other MMO cash shops out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    1. Other games having worse cash shops doesn't not excuse this cash shop being greedy.
    2. There has been exactly one sale on mounts/costumes/minions/barding since I've started playing which was about 16 months ago. Having sales this far apart is not helpful.
    3. Telling me to not buy an item is not a helpful response. I want the item, but they're overcharging for it. I do a lot of fashion related stuff and not having access to this stuff is crippling.
    4. If this topic comes up a lot, then that says more about the shop than the anyone talking about it.
    1. It's a market standard. These are the prices that people are willing to pay. It's not greed, it's what the market accepts.

    2. Sales happen often. Sales of the ENTIRE STORE are annual and sometimes expansion related. Why would anyone buy something at full price if sales happened all the time?

    3. "overcharging" in this case meaning "charging more than I am willing to pay". Just because what you like to do would benefit from the purchase doesn't mean it's "crippling" you to not afford to be able to purchase it. There are literally thousands of glamour options available included in the base access to the game.

    4. Not really. People complaining that luxuries are too expensive is a pretty common thing. Everyone wants everything for cheap or for free.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  4. #34
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    Seems like a walletshamer is born every month
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    I think the prices would be fine...if they were account bound. 15$ for a one character outfit is just insane.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    I think the prices would be fine...if they were account bound. 15$ for a one character outfit is just insane.
    May I introduce you to WoW's 25$ race changes? Or maybe the 30$ faction changes? Or a nice 60$ (last time I checked) level boost for 1 character?



    I can however agree that something like mounts and maybe minions should just all be account wide, increase the prices a bit for all I care as long as I would have it on every character, if I ever decide to make an alt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Lower your prices to something reasonable.
    No competition + enough demand = very reasonable price for them.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gameovers View Post
    I want you to go play Tera and ESO or any EA game and come back to this one.
    To be fair to Tera or EA games like SWTOR, they're free to play and thus their cash shops /are/ how they generate revenue and thus you can't really compare them to a game that has a sub-only model. Likewise while I hate EA a good deal SWTOR's pricing model has gone from outrageously horrendous with actual critical game functions locked behind their sub wall to at least passable ever since new management took over the MMO. Management that unsurprisingly saw that bleeding everyone dry in a bid to reap ALL the money was far less effective than simply pushing people to spend $5 max to get the preferred status to skip most of the jank. Cosmetics are still expensive, their housing cosmetics especially, but it's where you'd expect it to be now for a F2P MMO.

    I do agree with you about ESO and would add on that even against other P2P MMO's that FF14's cash shop really seems to be toeing the industry standard. A look at WoW's cash shop shows pretty similar prices for all-character unlock mounts and we all know the hell that is ESO's Crate system to get many of their cosmetics. Comparatively FF14's really isn't that bad at all.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    To be fair to Tera or EA games like SWTOR, they're free to play and thus their cash shops /are/ how they generate revenue and thus you can't really compare them to a game that has a sub-only model. Likewise while I hate EA a good deal SWTOR's pricing model has gone from outrageously horrendous with actual critical game functions locked behind their sub wall to at least passable ever since new management took over the MMO. Management that unsurprisingly saw that bleeding everyone dry in a bid to reap ALL the money was far less effective than simply pushing people to spend $5 max to get the preferred status to skip most of the jank. Cosmetics are still expensive, their housing cosmetics especially, but it's where you'd expect it to be now for a F2P MMO.

    I do agree with you about ESO and would add on that even against other P2P MMO's that FF14's cash shop really seems to be toeing the industry standard. A look at WoW's cash shop shows pretty similar prices for all-character unlock mounts and we all know the hell that is ESO's Crate system to get many of their cosmetics. Comparatively FF14's really isn't that bad at all.
    I bring Tera into it because it's a worst shop and has VERY evil designs to how it makes it's money. The way their loot box system is designed is flat out evil. I bring them into the convo because the people who scream and moan about FFXIV's store need to see true evil. We don't have loot boxes and while some items can be a tiny bit high ... you get the item 100% of the time. no loot boxes, no stupid unfair greedy loot tables, not pointless stupid items in said loot tables that reset the chances of you getting the actual jacket you wanted making you buy even more loot boxes....! We can have that. But instead we get a very fair and just system. Buy the item, get the item. But that's why I put Tera in there.. because they are worst then EA. ESO would be the worse and is up there tho because ye--ah.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Comparatively FF14's really isn't that bad at all.
    The Mogstation leaves much to be desired though. Mostly consisting of seasonal event items from events you missed. All the outfits aren't terribly exciting either: half of em from npc's that are no longer wearing them or are no longer around to wear em, the other half being original designs but kinda bland looking. Then there are the two pairs of outfits from other FF titles. They should do MORE of that.

    We then have the highly disturbing lack of weapon bundles. This one really gets me down, cuz when I go into a cash shop I head over to the weapons section first to see what they've got, see how cool they look, and am somewhat pleased. Mogstation's is extremely pitiful. All you've got are: 1) Scythes 2) all of the Heavensward weapons 3) FFXIII weapons. That's it. No weapons for any other job in that shop, not even my dear Rouge Ninja. Disgraceful.

    Only 24 mounts and they're meh. I bought the cloud though. (the motorcycle might be next)

    Everything else I don't care about. The Mogstation could deeeeeeeeeeefinitely stand to get more shit, either original designs and/or from the game itself, or from other FF titles and/or Square games. But if there are money/ licensing issues that I don't know about, then I guess that's that.

    FF14's cash may not be that bad at all, but for what it has to offer, it's pretty bad.

    3.5/10
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