Thread: I'd like another tank in 6.0

Tank is highly unlikely. Healer is almost guaranteed, caster DPS is likely, though I could see us getting another melee DPS that is either for maiming or scouting gear.

Originally Posted by Ilenya

(Unsure if serious or not)

Judging by jobs we have, it'll likely be Healer/Caster for 6.0.

Thanks to the ending dialog of 5.3 MSQ I think the twins are going to be the faces of the two new classes. Alphinaud going with the healer, and something in me thinks Alisaie will go dexterity melee, something like a Ninja, but different, she's too aggressive to be a stand back and cast, Red Mage works with her, but I see her going full-time melee. The only problem being I don't see her going thief, which is the only Final Fantasy job that would fit the role.

Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Idk. Back in sb, most people banked on the probability of getting tank/heals. Instead we got tank/dps. And while we're thinking "they couldn't possibly shaft healers further by not giving us one", it wouldn't surprise me if they did. Or just kept it at one job and it's a dps.

I'm pretty sure they wanna avoid a Blizzard style audience cricket response at the next expac announcement but this is the gaming industry you know and as a collective, they tend to be hella outta touch at times.

I don’t think Tank/healer was a smart guess for SB anyway as both of them had one in HW.

And I don’t get how healers are ‘shafted’ if they don’t make a new healing class. Let’s be honest they all play pretty much the same anyway, the same kit with a gimmick (pet, cards, slightly better kit). I’d only really want another one if they had an interesting idea for it.

Originally Posted by LadyAveria

A healer that debuffs isn't possible at the moment considering how debuffs work in the game and it would require a lot of changing so the game isn't broken by like a spell that reduces a bosses defense by a certain number.

????

SCH applies a debuff that increases Crit rate against target by 10%.

NIN applies a debuff that increases damage taken by 5%.

It is perfectly possible to have a healer that debuffs targets. The concept is as complicated as having a class that buffs allies (DNC, BRD and AST), considering a debuff on an enemy is essentially a buff to anybody attacking that enemy. In fact I hope that's what SCH ends up becoming: A full fledged debuffer, with Scan, Libra, and all those iconic FF abilities based on looking for weaknesses in enemies and exploiting them for tactical advantage.


Also, Shield/Heal dynamic doesn't need to be all healers are. Especially considering all healers posses Regen and Shields now. (Whispering Dawn, Divine Benison,
Celestial Intersection.)

In terms of healing gimmicks you can have:
-Delayed heal bombs, like Excog and Earthly star. (Or lifebloom in WoW.)
-Channeled healing.
-HP trade off with healer.
-Damage turned into healing.
-Positional based healing. (Distance to healer maximizes potency)
-Rewinding HP status.
-Healing extends max HP.
-Low HP increases potency of heals.

A Healer is still very likely to be added.

Me too, this game can never have enough tanks. For the first time in its history tanks are not an extreme rarity in duty instances like they've been until Shadowbringers.
I wouldn't mind if we got a healer and a tank for the next expansion. However, no more slashing tanks; I'd be looking for any other weapon type, maybe blunt like a hammer. Also, they should look into adding a slow tank, if you catch my drift. One which would ditch the 123 and would use some other system, maybe something like dancer's steps or Red mage's black/white gauge to deliver a very strong attack. The 123 system is being way over-abused now when it comes to tanks.

Originally Posted by Jirah

what was wrong with it before? since the content is being dragged to alleviate the injudicious with every patch

Not wrong, just (in my opinion, obviously) unnecessarily a little more cumbersome with having to switch stances and choose between enmity and damage.