Thread: I'd like another tank in 6.0

Personally hope they at LEAST do DPS + non DPS each expansion.
And if thats too much, then alternate with 1 DPS every other expansion, and a nonDPS for the expansions in between.

Originally Posted by Cinno

Our current distribution of jobs is:
Tanks
Healer
Physical DPS
Ranged DPS
Magic DPS

Well, if were going by this logic...
Ever since BRD was given its own LB in HW, to be a role different from other ranged DPS, such as casters, its only fair to separate jobs based on 3 criteria. "Melee vs Ranged" + "Magical vs Physical" + "DPS vs Tank vs Healer".


Physical Melee Tanks
3.8 (-0.2)
Physical Ranged Tanks
0
Magical Melee Tanks
0
Magical Ranged Tanks
0.2

Magical Ranged Healer
3
Physical Ranged Healer
0
Magical Melee Healer
0
Physical Melee Healer
0

Physical Melee DPS
4
Physical Ranged DPS
3
Magical Ranged DPS
3
Magical Melee DPS
0


Then separate which of those have a pet variation... followed by a limited job variation...
(Just kidding obviously)

Its Healer/Caster fam sorry

Originally Posted by Ilenya

This feels like a BAD reason to avoid having a new healer. If it turns out they've not been adding healers because people don't like it, healer mains will likely be absolutely livid.

The simple solution is to just make a healer who actually IS what people want to play lol. Most ppl I know who dont want to play healers in MMOs, want to be in armor, have a big weapon, and melee. But the moment its a Paladin, they have 0 problems healing the group. (Outside of some sort of healer anxiety) An example is in offline RPGs. Every single person who plays an RPG offline, plays a healer. They may not considered their clothed healer the main character, but they sure as heck will put them on the team and play them. So in context of a "battle healer", as long as it "feels" like a typical main character hero, and can still dish out some damage (like current healers) they wont see "healing" as something "unfun". (This excludes changes to healer DPS. Just talking about concepts)

In short SE, stop making all healers robed casters with wand equivalent for weapons... and im sure you'll attract FAR more people to the healer role. (Yes im aware the game is built from the ground up with the idea healers wear cloth (literally has the word "healer" in the gear name) and go pew pew from a distance, while having cast bars on all meaningful actions. But thats SEs fault. It really was EXTREMELY shortsighted not to see something as basic as this.)

Originally Posted by GeminiReed

Wildstar had a heavy armor melee healer (Medic) and let me tell you, it was miserable.

(1) The problem with Medic wasnt its armor lol. (In the case of FF14, its easy to just glamor on some armor in this game. A WHM in armor, is still just a stationary pew pew wizard)
(2) Healers played drastically differently in wildstar, vs the DPS oriented playstyle of 14. Theres no reason to make a playstyle feel "Miserable". Or at least, if you MUST have that playstyle, at least offer a class within the role that does NOT feel miserable. (Look at the DPS options we have, and how some are pretty janky, but some ppl love them. Then we have others that are as smooth as butter, and people prefer those jobs, solely because they wanted a less annoying job to play)

But thats falling in line with the issue of just not making healing more enjoyable, and sticking to "mostly" a single playstyle for healing. (All the while making multiple playstyles for dealing damage, and occasionally some MMOs change playstyles of tanks too. But for the few MMOs that change up the "healer playstyle", its done far less often, and usually involves the resources of the healer, rather than anything else.(Using DPS as a comparison, where entire functions are different))