Dungeon Finder System - Whats the problem?

[Avraym]

I've seen multiple threads with people whining about the cross server dungeon finding system. And i really don't understand or see any of the points people make against the system as valid.

People say "It ruins the community".

THIS DOESN'T RUIN THE COMMUNITY. You can still do the same dungeons with the linkshell members or server. Hell, theres even content that specifically WON'T be world crossed, such as High NM's, Hamlet and other features they've mentioned that will be non instanced. This feature encourages play at any time of the day, which encourages more people to play regardless of time constraints. It keeps people PLAYING. More people playing = bigger communities.

Another "argument" is that you get bads in the group.

Guess what. Just because people are on your server, doesn't make them pro. WoW's dungeon finder system had a "Gear Level" requirement to weed out the inexperienced, undergeared types. It was rare that I was ever grouped with someone who didn't know the fights or griefed. And guess what, you still get that by forming groups on your own server.

Other people say "It hurts immersion".

Guess what, you can't FORCE people to stay segregated into their little shell if they don't want to. Immersion is a choice. For the less populated of servers during off-peak time (when they make new ones), having an option to play the content you need regardless of how many people are online is a pure asset and convienence.

We are living in a world where people have less time than ever to sit around waiting to assemble a party. All this feature does is bring people together.

Wether you like it or not, FFXIV is a casual game, and this feature caters to both casual and hardcore players who just want to do the dungeon without the time saping constraints of gathering a group.

Please, someone. Enlighten me as to why this feature is doomsday.

[LazyBarakat]

coz someone say so, and others just copy + paste

[Starlord]

I will place what I said in another thread here:

I honestly do not get it.. How is Easy to get a party for said content "bad"? I mean what if this "content finder" just places you into a group of 8 people and then you just go there like you normally would, and not be plopped there? Of course people are going to use it, because its easier to do that, rather than to search for people. But there also something that people fail to see:

-For Harder content, people aren't going just "Get random people and wing it" they will use the PC search to search within there server, or have their own Linkshell to tackle the hader content down. That much is fact.
-For Exp, the only way to get Via Content finder is through dungeon content ( which we all know is pointless, but hey some people will use it for that as well, but its not the most Optimal way of getting exp.)
-For Exp parties, People will do what they would normally do "Use PC search to find people within their server to exp all around Eorzea.
-Frontlines (PvP) is Non-Instanced ( They are making it in a way that enemies won't interfere with non-participating players, so Content finder will most likely won't be used for this)

The only thing Content finder will be used for honestly is for the High-end content (sometimes). I say sometimes because some content.. you just can't do it with random members, so you have to do it within your home server, where you know everyone and what they do, to really get any of that accomplished.

Content Finder will only really be used if:

-Content is Easy enough to tackle down Via Random people
-If People dont have enough time to looking for "awesome people" and just want to get in a quick match before doing there real life duties or have other things planned.
-People that are impatient to find people on their Server, so they resort to content finder
-If it takes to long to finder people Via PC Search to do Content that's easy enough to tackle down with random people they will use it.

I been thinking about this all this morning while over my aunts house Drinking Coffee and randomly talking about it, I got her laughing a lot :P, All of what I said was me thinking for a couple of hours trying to find pros and cons.. but really there's isn't any cons.. You have to realize that there is going to be a lot of potential players of all types, not everyone is going to use content finder. Some people will use it some people won't, but its only made for Dungeons/Primals. If we all start out at lvl 1, we will be exploring the world as normal, because Content finder is made for.. well content! Exping isn't really content.. its just leveling up from point A to point B that's it.

In Conclusion, Content finder won't disrupt the balance of the community that some people say, because it's only ment for Easy/medium hard content (If people choose to use it for that). However, the harder content, I do not foresee people using the Content finder to get Random people to do hard content, unless they just want to kill time.

These are my thoughts for today on Content Finder!

Content finder to allow input of information such as class, job, and level, to find other players across all
worlds for groups for dungeons, instanced raids, primal battles, etc.

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There really isn't a problem, just 3-4 people just don't understand the logic behind it, which is why I posted this long "essay like" paper on how Content finder won't hurt anything, Its an Option.. people say your FORCED into it, because they thing the whole community is going to use it. False again, refer to my List of reasons why it won't be that way in my long post above.

They just want to stir up trouble

[Avraym]

Exactly. Players whining for the sake of whining. It's just stupid.

[Cendres]

coz someone say so, and others just copy + past

Lol that made me laugh, great points all around people, I'll distribute +1 when I get home, no option for it on the i browser.

[Cendres]

Lol that made me laugh, great points all around people, I'll distribute +1 when I get home, no option for it on the i browser.

Actually it does work if push the star icon, wasn't working yesterday.... He he

[HiirNoivl]

More like necrobumping for the sake of necrobumping.

I think the posts against the Dungeon Finder all come from like 3 people. lol

[Antanias]

Nothing's wrong with content finder. It's just the "If Rokien doesn't like it, then no one should use it" mentality that gets tiresome

[Wolfie]

Yeah, they're coming from Rokien & Co. The Tea Party of MMO gaming.

[Loony_BoB]

In my case, it's more of a concern because I've not experienced a dungeon finder system before, and also because I worry as the most enjoyable part of the game for me is growing friendships over time by partying with them regularly - without the need for them to be in my linkshell. But it's a concern, not an outright rejection. I'm very interested in seeing how it all turns out, it will be an experience if anything. I have adored the Sargatanas community since I rejoined the game, and I hope that this does not impact it on any real level. Fingers crossed!