A better idea for dungeons besides speed run.

[TheVedis]

as long as the requirement for getting the 5th chest is actually difficult. so far it just sounds like you guys want to make it even easier

some people do want it easy mode

some of us just dont want it to be straight elitist where you need to have the fastest group possible as the main requirement to get it


you can easily make fights harder or add more mechanics instead of requiring you to just do them fast

[Endemerrin]

I'm fine with speed runs existing, but I think they should be for achievements only. 5th chests should be difficult, but not based on speed runs. Maybe make certain conditions that will allow for bosses to have a hard mode. I like the idea of having objectives that are optional within the dungeon that would activate a sort of "normal" mode on the boss.

If you skip that objective, you'd face the hard mode of the boss, and would be able to get the 5th chest by killing him.

But in general, I don't like feeling rushed. It would be nice to just take my time through an instance for once. Kill enemies, have fun, not always feel like I need to put the lead out so we can make our speed run.

[Fionlagh]

well said foxbat, short and sweet and on point

[Velhart]

some people do want it easy mode

some of us just dont want it to be straight elitist where you need to have the fastest group possible as the main requirement to get it


you can easily make fights harder or add more mechanics instead of requiring you to just do them fast

This. There are a lot of ways you can make it difficult and not make it a speed run. As I said before, speed runs are just a lazy way of making things challenging.