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    "anyone who does better than me is botting"
    competition half over atm. 4d 18h remain.

    i have ~875k rn, only crafting 5-7hr/day. 1.1m not outside realm of feasibility, given a few hrs more invested per day.
    even ppl that play 16hr days are still getting healthy amt of sleep. more than double the playtime, so surely double the point can be expected as well, though efficiency may drop with fatigue.

    the 2 fisherfells that reached 500k, 600k yesterday on my server are real players, maybe yours is, maybe isn't. 537k a day later within reasonable expectation still.
    other friend pushing 12-14h sessions, barely hanging on as btn, 90-100k/day, losing out to player that pushing 16h+ sessions.
    in that respect i'm glad i picked doh again... quite lazy compared to him.

    sure, some bot may exist, but largely this feel like temper tantrum tier bc unwilling to accept the length achievement hunter will go to for limited-time reward // not willing to go that far yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    "anyone who does better than me is botting"
    competition half over atm. 4d 18h remain.

    i have ~875k rn, only crafting 5-7hr/day. 1.1m not outside realm of feasibility, given a few hrs more invested per day.
    even ppl that play 16hr days are still getting healthy amt of sleep. more than double the playtime, so surely double the point can be expected as well, though efficiency may drop with fatigue.

    the 2 fisherfells that reached 500k, 600k yesterday on my server are real players, maybe yours is, maybe isn't. 537k a day later within reasonable expectation still.
    other friend pushing 12-14h sessions, barely hanging on as btn, 90-100k/day, losing out to player that pushing 16h+ sessions.
    in that respect i'm glad i picked doh again... quite lazy compared to him.

    sure, some bot may exist, but largely this feel like temper tantrum tier bc unwilling to accept the length achievement hunter will go to for limited-time reward // not willing to go that far yourself.

    I think you missed the part where I said i'm a Saint myself from last tier. I know the lengths. I did it. And in the week that it took us to do it last time, nobody was near 1mil points on my server. At most 700k. But nice job assuming EDIT: Looked back. APPARENTLY there were those that hit that mark. But only at the END. Nowhere NEAR hitting those numbers mid competition.

    Also, i've been around since 1.0 and beta of ARR. I've been around the block long enough to not only notice a bot when I see it, but to talk to people who used to bot in the day and how they work. It's not hard when you know exactly what to look for. We're suppose to report them. But apparently nobody at SE knows how to do that at least on the NA servers. When somebody is seen consistently going to the same exact spots down to the coords, that's botting. (As for that fisher). Like you said, we know it happens. And it's reported. SE needs to start enforcing it. Because all that attitude does, the one you have, is simply allow them to continue on instead of pointing out blatant abuses of the system
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    Last edited by Lecru; 09-13-2020 at 08:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    I think you missed the part where I said i'm a Saint myself from last tier. I know the lengths. I did it. And in the week that it took us to do it last time, nobody was near 1mil points on my server. At most 700k. But nice job assuming
    last time doesn't matter. your server doesn't matter. saint doesn't matter.
    different conditions, and ppl more used to crafting / methodology now, even if durability 10 less.

    so willing to cry wolf and not look at simple fact that it quite feasible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    last time doesn't matter. your server doesn't matter. saint doesn't matter.
    different conditions, and ppl more used to crafting / methodology now, even if durability 10 less.

    so willing to cry wolf and not look at simple fact that it quite feasible.
    All i'm hearing is you turning the other cheek to blatant use of third party apps. It's like Among Us. Makes you yourself look sus. YOu gonna sit here and tell us you're fine with botting and account sharing then?

    Also also, has nothing to do with "Getting better at" when the craft itself is left to RNG for those pushing experts. If you disagree with that, well, it's obvious you lack any knowledge of it and macro your crafts lol
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    Last edited by Lecru; 09-13-2020 at 09:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    All i'm hearing is you turning the other cheek to blatant use of third party apps. It's like Among Us. Makes you yourself look sus. YOu gonna sit here and tell us you're fine with botting and account sharing then?
    1.1m is difference of 9hrs vs my quite lazy score.
    u can keep your hyperbole bc it's readily apparent you're better at complaining than crafting
    particularly if u think a macro can push that hourly rate
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    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    1.1m is difference of 9hrs vs my quite lazy score.
    u can keep your hyperbole bc it's readily apparent you're better at complaining than crafting
    particularly if u think a macro can push that hourly rate
    Again. I have my title. And you didn't answer my question. Go figure. And by all means, somebody macro crafting non experts can most certainly do 40k in a day turn in. That's legit been proven lmfao But there's a huge difference in what you're doing and what somebody pushing 1.1 mil points in 5 days is doing. Which is, again, account sharing or something else. Both of which are against ToS. Since you seem to be needing reminded of that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Again. I have my title. And you didn't answer my question. Go figure. And by all means, somebody macro crafting non experts can most certainly do 40k in a day turn in. That's legit been proven lmfao But there's a huge difference in what you're doing and what somebody pushing 1.1 mil points in 5 days is doing. Which is, again, account sharing or something else. Both of which are against ToS. Since you seem to be needing reminded of that
    are u legit high? more straw men in this thread than my uncle's farm.
    experience crafter can push 25-30k/hr without issue, 1.5-2min/craft avg. your server literally doesn't matter. your title literally doesn't matter.
    at this rate, which a crafter with 1.1m surely has (or close to it, even if 20k, still v feasible), its a matter of mere hours.
    over 5 days, 9 hr difference = 1-2h more than me daily, a lazy potato who still manages to do reasonably okay.
    I think you missed the part where I said i'm a Saint myself from last tier
    I went back and looked btw. I did miss it, because you didn't say it.
    i think you need sleep more than I do, but I'm going to bed, so enjoy your unhinged ranting.
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