Maybe we need a Cataclysm

[Razard]

I theorize the game will go massively downhill after 5.4 unless Yoshi and co. suddenly decide content shouldn't fall off weeks after release.

Oh look, it’s that thing some people have been saying will happen to this game since the 2.0 relaunch.

Oh ye Twelve. Maybe it’ll happen this time xD. If we see it posted another 15 times.

Oh well. You know what they say, I suppose. Hope in one hand, poop in the other. See which one fills up first.

[Sauteed]

I will go with the thought a cataclysm is not needed. Do think the story has meandered on long enough. The general design philosophy with these ffxiii style corridor dungeons is getting dull and boring and no amount of flashy skills and peripheral stuff happening will spice it up.

Boss fights also need to be re-thought at this point as well. In a way tho they did do a mini cataclysm with combat systems at ShB launch getting rid of tp and massive overhauls of tank healer classes. The response to that is pretty mixed. For as many well received changes it looks as if there were equal nays and boos. The game is "easier" and more people came to play it but I think more people are taking breaks and probably more frequently. Yes Yoshi-P did advise playing other games to avoid burn out but at some point this game needs to have some kind of retention mechanisms outside of if you don't log in every 45 days to maintain your house you lose it.

The Isgardian restoration content misses the mark of crafting for me personally. Yes it is a path to level crafting classes but grinding for the same of grinding to get a title is not why most people who craft in mmos enjoy crafting. Me personally I enjoyed crafting as a means to help my friends or loved ones get their feet on the ground and doing things with something I made. And that exists here in xiv. In a strange way I am kind of upset they give hq versions of things players can craft as quest rewards. Are nq versions of weapons not sufficient to complete content in that level range? It kind of veers players away from relying on players in an mmo at least on their first character.

I do realize a lot of what is there is changes made to help a 7 year old mmorpg maintain itself and stay relevant but at some point changes made are actually disruptive to the mmo experience. Enough of my ramblin

[KayRadley]

Titanman, is that you?

[SenorPatty]

As usual, extreme solutions for simple problems.

Do I agree the game needs a shake-up and/or overhaul? Yes

Does it need to be done through a "calamity"? No.

[spf1200]

I am going to share a real controversial opinion here, but maybe it would be a good idea to have another cataclysm. There is nothing really wrong with the game and it doesn't need a restart but I feel that something like this could really energize the players and maybe give the development team a chance to work themselves out of some of the very rigid loops they have designed. For instance we have been running roulettes for tomestones to get new gear for 7 years now.

So you want to waste dev time and our money doing something you already know isn't needed? Also 5.0 is literally about stopping a calamity, are you really saying that the devs should just scrap that and tells us we wasted an entire expansion?

[Sumea]

So you want to waste dev time and our money doing something you already know isn't needed? Also 5.0 is literally about stopping a calamity, are you really saying that the devs should just scrap that and tells us we wasted an entire expansion?

Directed by surprise writer: Nomura-san

[Kes13a]

well, just to put this out there, but if the Development team is in a corner, I imagine they would.. come out with an expansion to tidy that up.. or something. you know, do what they do and make the game

just a thought. really if I want a world shattering calamity every expansion I'll go back to WoW (was kinda the reason I left, because the constant and repeated calamities and direction sucked)

[SieyaM]

The other aspect I was looking for was an actual world changing event, something that all the players could really feel. For all that we are supposed to have done in the world nothing every really changes. New places are added sure, but they are the same no matter what war, event or incredible enemy we defeat. The only time something ever really did change as a result of our actions in the MSQ was Shadowbringers by returning a day/night cycle.

[Shurrikhan]

I'm not a big WoW nerd, but I've read / heard a lot that Cataclysm was the first step that made players so divided about current WoW.

Very, very little of that was due to the changes to the original world, though. Almost every one of those changes were a significant net improvement. Many of the zones' changes made for a far more lively and engaging world, even if it still had plenty of room for further improvement.

[Seraphor]

They've just redone all the ARR zones.
I doubt they're gonna undo all of that any time soon