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    Player
    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    the skills are numbered as they are because there is no consistency between them. Not all of the spells that would end in -ra are AoE spells. Fire II, Blizzard II, Thunder II (now but it wasn't always), Miasma II (when we had it), Fan Dance II, Veraero II, and Verthunder II are all AoE spells. But Stone II, Aero II, Ruin II, Broil II, Bio II, Malefic II, Combist II, Cure II, and Benefic II are all single target.

    A good comparison is how the materia names are. In English, each tier is just a number higher. Bit in Japanese they used the ra, ga, ja, system, and now you have grade 8's being named Mega Materija, or something to that effect. So each system has their strengths and weaknesses. While the ra, ga, ja system is more "iconic" what happens when you go beyond the system? Number can always be added upon, but ever wonder why we haven't gotten a Stone V, or Fire V? There is nothing beyond the ja suffix, so they would have to create a new one.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I feel like numbers should only indicate spell strength, not group multiple effects under (say) the label "Fire" when some are single, some AoE, etc.

    As for renaming spells, I'd love to be able to do that so I can rename all the cryptically named ones to things that remind me what they do.
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    Rei Makato
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    The reason why the english version and only the english version uses the 1-2-3 ECT affixes for the spells is because of history. The original translations of Final Fantasy in the west used numeric values for spells, all the way up to I believe final fantasy 8s release? Re-Releases of the older games since use the a. aga, aja now, but for the localisation of 14 they decided to use the numbers as that is what they thought westerners would be more familiar with it
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    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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    SavishSalacious's Avatar
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    Alex Mathethious
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    Malboro
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonexx View Post
    Would anyone be interested in being able to rename your class features. Like, I'm not a fan of how spells are named Fire 1/2/3/4 and would rather use names like Fira/Firaga/Firaja and so forth. Thoughts?
    No because you don't stop using fire once you learned fire 2, as you don't stop using 2 once you learned 3 and you never stop using that once you use 4. People assume 4 is better then 3, this is not a single player Game. it doesn't work that way. Learn your rotation. Thanks.
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    Lachelle Kisne
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavishSalacious View Post
    No because you don't stop using fire once you learned fire 2, as you don't stop using 2 once you learned 3 and you never stop using that once you use 4. People assume 4 is better then 3, this is not a single player Game. it doesn't work that way. Learn your rotation. Thanks.

    Well, for starters, I main BLM and know my rotation quite well. Not sure what made you think I don't. This is more about customization for fun, being able to just change the name of your abilities, just for personal aesthetic.
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    Chisato Nishikigi
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavishSalacious View Post
    No because you don't stop using fire once you learned fire 2, as you don't stop using 2 once you learned 3 and you never stop using that once you use 4. People assume 4 is better then 3, this is not a single player Game. it doesn't work that way. Learn your rotation. Thanks.
    You should learn to read tho
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    When i see a Lalafell character wearing a cute glam

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    Fynlar Eira
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    No because you don't stop using fire once you learned fire 2, as you don't stop using 2 once you learned 3 and you never stop using that once you use 4. People assume 4 is better then 3, this is not a single player Game. it doesn't work that way. Learn your rotation. Thanks.
    Your tone is completely unnecessary. There is nothing about the OP's post that suggests they don't know their rotation or how to play.
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    The original JP convention is still Fire, Fira...etc
    Only the non-JP versions changed.
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    Karma Dunkelsonn
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    The original JP convention is still Fire, Fira...etc
    Only the non-JP versions changed.
    And all of them do their own thing, as far as I'm aware.

    Only the English localization changed the spell name to include roman numerals.
    The German localization uses the -ra/ga/ka (notably not -ja for the fourth iteration of a spell) suffixes (but uses roman numerals for Materia).
    French uses Extra/Mega/Giga as a prefix.

    It's at the point where every time I refer to a spell by it's actual name instead of it's general function I automatically use Auto Translate because there's no real consistency across languages at all and just because people chat in a language doesn't mean that that's their client language.
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    Feronar Bloodfang
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    Also, in the early FF games, like back on the Super Nintendo, the white mage's big powerful offensive spell was called Pearl. I wonder why they changed it to Holy.
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