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    Renaming Abilities?

    Would anyone be interested in being able to rename your class features. Like, I'm not a fan of how spells are named Fire 1/2/3/4 and would rather use names like Fira/Firaga/Firaja and so forth. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonexx View Post
    Would anyone be interested in being able to rename your class features. Like, I'm not a fan of how spells are named Fire 1/2/3/4 and would rather use names like Fira/Firaga/Firaja and so forth. Thoughts?

    Proceedings of the Council of Magi
    Proceedings of the 284th Convocation of the Amdapori Council of Magi
    A Vote was called to settle on a Name for a potent and newly fashioned Healing-Spell. Being that said Healing-Spell was an Augmentation of Curaga, erst the most potent Healing-Spell, the following Names were proposed by the Council.

    Curago, Curaza, Curaja, Curagura

    Finding the afore-written Names duly lacking in Gravity and the existing Hierarchy of Spell-Names needlessly abstruse, the Council did Vote by a margin of Seventeen to Three to do away with existing Naming-Conventions entirely and adopt a new system of numerical Spell-Names, as writ below, to be used henceforth.

    Cure I, Cure II, Cure III, Cure IV

    It is recorded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    Finding the afore-written Names duly lacking in Gravity and the existing Hierarchy of Spell-Names needlessly abstruse, the Council did Vote by a margin of Seventeen to Three to do away with existing Naming-Conventions entirely and adopt a new system of numerical Spell-Names, as writ below, to be used henceforth.
    Addendum: The Council has been made aware that Gravity is already in use as a spell-name and will vote on changing the above wording in the next session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonexx View Post
    Would anyone be interested in being able to rename your class features. Like, I'm not a fan of how spells are named Fire 1/2/3/4 and would rather use names like Fira/Firaga/Firaja and so forth. Thoughts?
    Not really interested in renaming my own abilities but you can make macros with no tooltip (not advised but hey). I wouldn't be opposed to this feature either, though.

    THAT. SAID....

    Fire/Blizz 1-4 need to use the a/ara/aga/aja system. The numbering makes it sound like each spell is an upgrade of the one before it, which isn't the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    Not really interested in renaming my own abilities but you can make macros with no tooltip (not advised but hey). I wouldn't be opposed to this feature either, though.

    THAT. SAID....

    Fire/Blizz 1-4 need to use the a/ara/aga/aja system. The numbering makes it sound like each spell is an upgrade of the one before it, which isn't the case.
    That wouldn't be any less confusing considering if you play any of the Final Fantasies that use that naming system,

    Fira is a strict upgrade to Fire, Firaga an upgrade to that, so just as the 1, 2, 3 system isn't intuitive, neither is that one. Also I'm pretty sure there's a lore tidbit in the game, though it's been years since I'd have seen it, where they said the citizens of Eorzea rejected that naming convention as being too unintuitive. So that means two things, the possibility for a non-Eorzean casting job using those names, but also a reason for the numeration of the spells as opposed to nonsensical names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    That wouldn't be any less confusing considering if you play any of the Final Fantasies that use that naming system
    It was mentioned above, but FF11 was really good about this in that you had a line of spells for Fire (fire I, II, III, etc) and a completely different line for Firaga (also I, II, etc). All base spells were stronger, single target. All -aga were AoE, but weaker.

    It was weird for the first -aga spell obtained, but really intuitive later.
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    The naming scheme isn't to blame for the confusion here; it's simply the way this particular game works.

    In most other games "Fire 3" or "Firaga" would both be understood as a more powerful (and probably rarer or higher cost) variant of Fire, but this game doesn't use it that way; it simply has different utility than Fire does.

    I'm not sure renaming the abilities is particularly warranted (for everyone who would welcome the change there is someone who would abhor it), but it would be spiffy if they somehow made it so that people could type "Fire III", "Fire 3", or "Firaga" into a /ac macro and the game would recognize any of them as the same action, kind of like how some emotes can be called using several different slash commands. As long as the actual ability name isn't changed I doubt having the option would ruffle any feathers.
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    I personally prefer the numbering system, could you imagine the naming convention for malefic II or Broil ||? Also to my knowledge in games with the Ruin spell it’s only had 2 variants, Ruin and Ruinga, no ruinra or however else. Even if we go based on previous games, FF1 fire and firaga were single target whereas fira and firaja/za were aoe, same deal with the cure spells and we currently have cure III being the aoe variant (where’s my cure IV SE) and fire IV being single target. For me I like the numbering system from a nostalgia standpoint, but reading your tooltip should always be done when you get a new skill so you understand how it works. If the skill was intended to be a direct augment they would have given us traits to augment them as opposed to a brand new skill.
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    I am really baffled about the Fire I-IV stuff. German client uses the -ra/-ga/-ka System the usual main titles use.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    I am really baffled about the Fire I-IV stuff. German client uses the -ra/-ga/-ka System the usual main titles use.
    The version of the story I heard was it was localized to I-IV to be "less confusing" which is kinda funny, considering it usually leads to MORE confusion.
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