PL Woes

[Xoo]

I can tell you exactly what you did wrong, or rather, what you failed to do. As a pt leader it is your *job* to make sure everyone knows what they are doing before you even leave. As an example, I will use my 1st Ifrit run. I was PLed as well, but lets face it a DD isn't exactly complicated, plus i partied from 40-50 enough to know how to make my skills work.

Truth in this, but to this as well...

OP said the guy didn't know what Esuna was or the effect it had on the target. Even if he had explained it, he wouldn't have appreciated the necessity in it. This is the problem with the battle system as it is now. In XI, a WHM knew exactly what Erase did the first time their tank got hit with a debuff.

[Krausus]

Truth in this, but to this as well...

OP said the guy didn't know what Esuna was or the effect it had on the target. Even if he had explained it, he wouldn't have appreciated the necessity in it. This is the problem with the battle system as it is now. In XI, a WHM knew exactly what Erase did the first time their tank got hit with a debuff.

Don't forget Esuna is a job ability not like he would of had the ability forever, this whole issue and thread could have been avoid had the party leader did his job and actually lead the party.

[Xoo]

Don't forget Esuna is a job ability not like he would of had the ability forever, this whole issue and thread could have been avoid had the party leader did his job and actually lead the party.

I'm not saying the OP isn't without blame. What I am saying is the person in question is just as much to blame. Who is actually at fault is the developers behind this battle system.

[Krausus]

I'm not saying the OP isn't without blame. What I am saying is the person in question is just as much to blame. Who is actually at fault is the developers behind this battle system.

you kidding me? it was a pug group hell even my LS group explains fights before the fights and one thing the leader would always say is if the tank gets petrified WHM make sure to esuna them. No use trying to argue with you though your always quick to jump on the anti-PL bandwagon regardless of the situation.

[Xoo]

you kidding me? it was a pug group hell even my LS group explains fights before the fights and one thing the leader would always say is if the tank gets petrified WHM make sure to esuna them. No use trying to argue with you though your always quick to jump on the anti-PL bandwagon regardless of the situation.

That's right. You wanna fight about it now or later?

[Krausus]

That's right. You wanna fight about it now or later?

nah I'm good, pretty tired and time to go home.

[Xianghua]

Truth in this, but to this as well...

OP said the guy didn't know what Esuna was or the effect it had on the target. Even if he had explained it, he wouldn't have appreciated the necessity in it. This is the problem with the battle system as it is now. In XI, a WHM knew exactly what Erase did the first time their tank got hit with a debuff.

No WHM knew what erase did after reading the description. There isn't a light that pops up in a exp pt only that tells you to use it. you learn it by reading the description. That doesn't require an exp pt.

Some of you just crack me up.

"Hey guys I just got this spell called Cure."
"cool whats it do?"
"Idk the description says "it cure's a target" but I won't know til I get an exp pt to try it out."

Some players are just horrible and you can't do anything about it.
You can never help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.

[Xoo]

No WHM knew what erase did after reading the description. There isn't a light that pops up in a exp pt only that tells you to use it. you learn it by reading the description. That doesn't require an exp pt.

Some of you just crack me up.

"Hey guys I just got this spell called Cure."
"cool whats it do?"
"Idk the description says "it cure's a target" but I won't know til I get an exp pt to try it out."

Some players are just horrible and you can't do anything about it.
You can never help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.

...and if you'd never had to use it before that very moment? Would you have even remembered? Especially if you were powerleveled up to Lv40+? Sorry, I'll keep knocking the negative repercussions of a broken battle system, the proliferation and abuse of PL because I do believe they bear a significant impact on the general quality of players.

[Arcell]

...and if you'd never had to use it before that very moment? Would you have even remembered? Especially if you were powerleveled up to Lv40+? Sorry, I'll keep knocking the negative repercussions of a broken battle system, the proliferation and abuse of PL because I do believe they bear a significant impact on the general quality of players.

They should have read the description of the spell. Any decent mage should know exactly what all the spells they currently have do. It's not like it's an incredibly complex spell. It removes negative status effects, that's it. The player in question clearly never even looked at what the spell did before and is thus a bad player regardless of how they obtained their levels. You can't fix that kind of stupid/lazy. Not to mention something like Esuna would have very limited, if any, use in an XP party so Moogle might be the first time they would use it regardless.

A good player would have read the description and would know what the spell does, there's no two ways about it.

[Xoo]

They should have read the description of the spell. Any decent mage should know exactly what all the spells they currently have do. It's not like it's an incredibly complex spell. It removes negative status effects, that's it. The player in question clearly never even looked at what the spell did before and is thus a bad player regardless of how they obtained their levels. You can't fix that kind of stupid/lazy. Not to mention something like Esuna would have very limited, if any, use in an XP party so Moogle might be the first time they would use it regardless.

A good player would have read the description and would know what the spell does, there's no two ways about it.

You're right, they should have read the effects of the ability. When they got it at Lv40, which they probably negated to do since at that point all they needed to get by was Curaga and Stoneskin.