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    Vasala's Avatar
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    Suggestion: Investigate the players at the top of the leader board

    I would suggest that SE take a hard look at the players at the top of the gathering leaderboards this season especially the fishers. Some of the numbers look very suspicious of the players cheating.
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    Honestly, it wouldn't do any good when they can't even seem to identify the most obvious of bots in the first place.

    I've reported Diadem bots that were stuck in a loop of jumping in place and/or mounting/dismounting constantly for basically an entire three hour lock out and they didn't do squat about it.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 09-10-2020 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Honestly, it wouldn't do any good when they can't even seem to identify the most obvious of bots in the first place.

    I've reported Diadem bots that were stuck in a loop of jumping in place and/or mounting/dismounting constantly for basically an entire three hour lock out and they didn't do squat about it.
    This. After a certain point it just becomes obvious that they don't care about how bad botting is on NA servers. I'm not sure if the problem is nonexistent on the JP servers, or if the community there is better about freezing out offenders on their own, but at this point I'd expect the ocean to turn to mango flavored jelly before SE actually took a proper stand on the matter. Which is upsetting because frankly if they just went after the bot makers themselves this issue would be a lot less prevalent. They aren't exactly hard to find, not when half of them openly brag about how easy it is to bot in this game and get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    This. After a certain point it just becomes obvious that they don't care about how bad botting is on NA servers. I'm not sure if the problem is nonexistent on the JP servers, or if the community there is better about freezing out offenders on their own, but at this point I'd expect the ocean to turn to mango flavored jelly before SE actually took a proper stand on the matter. Which is upsetting because frankly if they just went after the bot makers themselves this issue would be a lot less prevalent. They aren't exactly hard to find, not when half of them openly brag about how easy it is to bot in this game and get away with it.
    I think if teh issue is less invasive on the JPN servers its because thats where the devs play, so it gets addressed.

    the NA team, is failing us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    This. After a certain point it just becomes obvious that they don't care about how bad botting is on NA servers. I'm not sure if the problem is nonexistent on the JP servers, or if the community there is better about freezing out offenders on their own, but at this point I'd expect the ocean to turn to mango flavored jelly before SE actually took a proper stand on the matter. Which is upsetting because frankly if they just went after the bot makers themselves this issue would be a lot less prevalent. They aren't exactly hard to find, not when half of them openly brag about how easy it is to bot in this game and get away with it.
    Back in the day, before we had the ability to right-click-report RMT bots, Yoshi-P visited NA/EU servers on a live stream and was flooded with RMT messages. He was completely surprised because he didn't know it was that bad outside of the JP servers. :B
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Honestly, it wouldn't do any good when they can't even seem to identify the most obvious of bots in the first place.

    I've reported Diadem bots that were stuck in a loop of jumping in place and/or mounting/dismounting constantly for basically an entire three hour lock out and they didn't do squat about it.
    Same. I saw someone on his mount at the entrance, not moving, that kept changing between DoL for the entire clock. It wasn't subtle and yet, despite a report, nothing was done about it.
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    Ehhh, I've put in 65000 points on fsh today, sure doing it all day but also take breaks and indulging in other content. I don't think its impossible for someone to truly no life those 120000 points. At least, speaking for the adamantoise leaderboard only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukajoo View Post
    Ehhh, I've put in 65000 points on fsh today, sure doing it all day but also take breaks and indulging in other content. I don't think its impossible for someone to truly no life those 120000 points. At least, speaking for the adamantoise leaderboard only.
    On Exodus we have a Fisher who is at the #1 spot who was over 250K points within 24 hours as a FSH. When 2nd place is only 50K, something's up. It's Day 2 now, and he has over 420K points while second place has just over 108K points. It's obviously a bot when it's that big of a gap that quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    On Exodus we have a Fisher who is at the #1 spot who was over 250K points within 24 hours as a FSH. When 2nd place is only 50K, something's up. It's Day 2 now, and he has over 420K points while second place has just over 108K points. It's obviously a bot when it's that big of a gap that quickly.
    Going to be honest, fishing is the quickest way to get points if you know where and what to fish for.
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    I know some of the people who did top 12 BTN/MIN last season to know they don't cheat and that they legitimately got well over 500K points, so yeah, some people are just insanely devoted.

    It's still a joke to have a ranking system if they can't keep the cheaters under control, though.

    EDIT: Rankings just updated and there are already DoH players with over 300K points on my server, which I find suspicious as all heck (Though I already know some of them are habitual botters from before the rankings began). I've also noticed most of these people never log off and are just sitting in their houses all night without being flagged AFK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I think if teh issue is less invasive on the JPN servers its because thats where the devs play, so it gets addressed.

    the NA team, is failing us
    From I've gathered, we don't even have a NA branch of the STF to hunt down bots.

    The entire game's population of cheaters is basically left up to a tiny JP team that was only staffed by four people according to the last credits roll.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 09-10-2020 at 06:35 PM.

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