reShade / GShade allowed?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'm just going to say this. Hvinire would not have posted that response unless he got the OK from SE hq in Japan. That message went through yoship and possibly even their legal team before it was posted.

[Alien_Gamer]

Keep in mind, SE's default position is no third party app is allowed; thats just a legal standpoint they can point to when necessary if they need to go after someone using it. Yoshi's default position has always been as long as you're not a d**k about using something and its not hurting anyone then he doesn't really care. He'll never come out and say they're officially allowed but they aren't going to go after anyone for it. I suppose if you were to try and use reshade to somehow harass someone with it on a stream then they might come after you...but thats kinda stretching things.

This game has a large community of modders, housing designers and gposers (...that last sounded better in my head) and yoshi has stated repeatedly that he enjoys seeing the things people have on display. I don't think he's going to want to do something to stifle those communities unless we (the playerbase) push him into a corner and make him do it.

[MariaArvana]

Technically: no. Square's official policy is no third party tools are allowed.

But its unlikely they'd go after someone using them unless they were shouting "I USE GSHADE, LOOK AT ME"; and even then, it'd have to be a super slow day for them to really care, since reshade/Ghsade are just graphical adjustment programs. Same thing as parsers; don't tell or show.

[MorionQ]

Meanwhile parsers ARE against ToS outright and usage is punishable, as there were reports of harassment towards players with low parser numbers. Actually, I think Stone, Sea, Sky was added as an alternative for parsers because of said harassment and console players.

The long and short of it is don’t do anything that will negatively impact other players. Which is reasonable.

[Eriane_Elis]

Meanwhile parsers ARE against ToS outright and usage is punishable, as there were reports of harassment towards players with low parser numbers. Actually, I think Stone, Sea, Sky was added as an alternative for parsers because of said harassment and console players.

The long and short of it is don’t do anything that will negatively impact other players. Which is reasonable.

Not true, even Yoshi P stated in an interview not too long ago that it doesn't violate ToS and he doesn't discourage its use, but rather discourage players from telling other players how bad they are. This part is what's in violation of the ToS -- shaming other players or telling other players how to play. This isn't to be mistaken to being a leader / mentor in a dungeon/trial/raid/etc... guiding people. For instance, telling people to run away after shooting the cannon at Livius wouldn't be a ToS violation unless you were a completely butt about it.

[Amnmaat]

My only worry about them allowing this is how it might make them not want to improve the game's anti-aliasing and adding other shaders to the game natively to the game. While plug-ins like reshad/nvidia freestyle are great, they are not native to the client itself, and they should seriously upgrade the game's shaders going into further expansions, mainly as an introduction to ps5 to get even more people into upgrading.

[Ryaz]

Reshade they've always said was fine as it doesn't alter anything within the game itself. Cosmetic mods are usually fine if you're quiet about it, but SEs official stance is no because some deviants use NSFW mods and can put the game at risk of backlash.

Thats said, reshades for the most part are limited to screenshots and the like due to the taxing nature on computer resources. There are a couple that are game play viable, though, that do things like just brightening up colors a bit.

[Amnmaat]

Personally I find color saturation, brightness, and contrast to be better through Nvidia's control control panel than through Reshade. Reshade is a constant battle of overdoing it and tinkering to achieve the impossible. The only thing I'd use Reshade/Gshade for would be for SMAA, other than that you could play around with digital vibrance, contrast, and brightness in the Nvidia control panel.

[Packetdancer]

Personally I find color saturation, brightness, and contrast to be better through Nvidia's control control panel than through Reshade. Reshade is a constant battle of overdoing it and tinkering to achieve the impossible.

I mean, you can expose the same controls via ReShade/GShade shaders; the Nvidia control panel just constrains the values to a smaller—and perhaps somewhat more sensible—range than a lot of the Curves/Levels/etc. shaders for ReShade do. It would be trivial to make a shader that did the same constrained sliders as the Nvidia control panel does.

(There's a solid argument to be made that the Nvidia implementation for that one specific thing is more efficient, though; unlike ReShade, the control panel adjustments directly affect the rendered output from Nvidia's drivers rather than post-processing the frames.)

But most of my screenshot presets are either very small color adjustments to vibrance and contrast, or else things that are drastic visual changes like turning the game into an oil painting or pencil sketch for artistic screenshot work.

You're not wrong that a lot of people will really go overboard on tweaking colors in ReShade presets, though.

The only thing I'd use Reshade/Gshade for would be for SMAA, other than that you could play around with digital vibrance, contrast, and brightness in the Nvidia control panel.

FWIW, at least some of the SMAA shaders out there for ReShade will import into Freestyle. So if you still wanted SMAA functionality solely in Nvidia's stuff which you presumably already have, without having to throw a dedicated ReShade install into the mix, you likely have an option there.