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    More flavorful dialogue choices in the future

    Dear SE,
    Not all of us look at our toons and see a noble "warrior of light" hero and all that blah blah blah

    I am a murder hobo. Point me at what you want dead and pay me, or else.

    Along those lines, can we get more insulting and "mercenary" dialogue choices in the future? Most of the npc's are idiots and I would love to tell them that. When an NPC asks me to fight for their great and noble cause? My preferred response, "I get paid right?"

    Being good all the time is 1-dimensional and boring AF. Let us be bad too. Some people will still want to see the goody-goody response choices and keep those, but really try balancing it out with mercenary and mean too.

    And if I can smack Alphinaud in the head every damn time I answer him. That would be a bonus too.
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    You might get some 'sassy' or teasingly 'mean' comments, but mercenary, cold, and cruel ones? No. Not at this point. Story wise you've gone too far to be doing what you're doing, to still be just another dick mercenary. The MSQ is set up for you to play the role of the good hearted hero, and it doesn't really bend to what you really want your character to be.
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    You get paid? I'm just here to blow shit up. The money's kinda not even a factor.

    But yes. Alphinaud needs smacked upside the head once in a while. Nice that his sister has been along more, she just about fits the purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidria View Post
    You might get some 'sassy' or teasingly 'mean' comments, but mercenary, cold, and cruel ones? No. Not at this point. Story wise you've gone too far to be doing what you're doing, to still be just another dick mercenary. The MSQ is set up for you to play the role of the good hearted hero, and it doesn't really bend to what you really want your character to be.
    I really dont agree with this. Our characters motivations are left extremely vague, its up to the player to decide what their characters motivations are. If its money or bloodlust, so what if the rest of the world views you as some good samaritan? You're in it for yourself.

    So yes, i do think there is room for cold or cruel dialogue options. We should have more than just 3 different ways of saying yes.
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    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    I really dont agree with this. Our characters motivations are left extremely vague, its up to the player to decide what their characters motivations are. If its money or bloodlust, so what if the rest of the world views you as some good samaritan? You're in it for yourself.

    So yes, i do think there is room for cold or cruel dialogue options. We should have more than just 3 different ways of saying yes.
    I don't think they're that vague at all, esp at this point. You could say it's a problem of the not-varied responses and 'choices' we've had. It's also under the assumption you're still around doing this because you're that 'good samaritan' and you do view the Scions as friends/family. If the personality the OP wants to express is what the character has, they would not be in the role they are in. The benefits and perks really don't outweigh the risks and losses.

    Basically we've already been shoehorned into the role and I don't see them giving optional choices that could undo that, aside from being a sass or teasing. Especially with the whole "gone through hell and back and came home with stronger friendship bonds" ShB had. I'm sure there could be a "I should get a paycheck" humor option but it wouldn't be written in the way the OP would want.
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    That’s all part of the running gag at this point. FF as a franchise is if nothing else an extremely railroady RPG series that is more interactive movie than not.

    There is a reason NPCs poke fun at our neck muscles, or even the Nier quest,one where some answers were a joke (along the lines of “not like I have a choice anyway”).

    I get what your after, but if the story needs to flow in a specific direction, there are just some archetypes that wouldn’t work.

    Not saying I disagree with you, just that the game really isn’t built for this. There was more than one occasion I wanted to absolutely destroy an NPC and disintegrate whatever corpse remained... but noooo, gotta be the better person.

    Were this open world, I would have made my peace with Ul’dah’s syndicate at 3.0 launch. And by made my peace I mean May they Rest In Peace.
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    Quietly nod yes.
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    I mentioned this in another thread but I would love if we could select a "personality" in character creation...maybe to replace the part where we select a god (does the deity do anything since Stormblood even?)

    Personality could bring up different dialogue options (without actually changing anything, these never change anything) and would replace some of the animations our characters do in cutscenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidria View Post
    You might get some 'sassy' or teasingly 'mean' comments, but mercenary, cold, and cruel ones? No. Not at this point. Story wise you've gone too far to be doing what you're doing, to still be just another dick mercenary. The MSQ is set up for you to play the role of the good hearted hero, and it doesn't really bend to what you really want your character to be.
    How many fates have you participated in that involved riding into a settlement of NPC's that were minding their own business and massacring them? Their crime? They are ugly and dared to be independent of the dictators we serve. No warnings. No negotiations. No survivors. Some gil thankyouverymuch.

    Even the MSQ's can easily include a mass murderer, who just happens to be on our side and that makes him/her a "hero". Is "our side" the good guys? Dude, every side thinks they are the good guys.

    So yes, I would like dialogue choices that reflect that point-of-view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidria View Post
    You might get some 'sassy' or teasingly 'mean' comments, but mercenary, cold, and cruel ones? No. Not at this point. Story wise you've gone too far to be doing what you're doing, to still be just another dick mercenary. The MSQ is set up for you to play the role of the good hearted hero, and it doesn't really bend to what you really want your character to be.
    This. Whether you like it or not the WoL has developed a personality as of ShB and it's incredibly sassy and a touch 'I lick rocks' levels of absurd. They're only going to let us be edgelords if it's to make a joke at our expense. Case in point, the ONE time SCH got a specific shout out during the Eden questline and could act all smarty-pants immediately resulted in Urianger calling us on our shit.


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