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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    Point #1: provide gameplay advice for new adventurers and other players.

    People being rude about it isn't conductive, but the fact remains, telling a DF EX trial group to do it unsynced is in fact good advice - Because the groups you'd find in DF are vastly incapable of completing anything besides the easiest EX trials that can be gigantically outgeared to kill it before major mechanics. So telling them to use a system that allows them to have a great chance at clearing the content is good advice than continue using DF to futiliy try and eke out a clear by finding a bingo group among a sea of doomed ones.



    Or the actual reality: anyone who cares about Mentor roulette will do all of them in PF, then immediately bail and continue the same pattern again if they get EX in DF since it's not worth it, making your whole system pointless.
    Alternative likely outcome: The EXs never pop since the amount of people that would care to re-unlock mentor roulette with all that criteria would basically be <1% of current mentors, completely defeating the point of your system and preventing you from ever using DF for EX's.

    The simple reality is that EX trials don't belong in a roulette alongside things as trivial as Guildhests. If you're that adamant about doing trials synced with your buds, find a group of 7 others or PF it. Nothing will stop people understanding that EXs are a waste of time in mentor roulette and bailing. and if you implement punishments harsh enough for leaving, they'll just fake D/C or not queue at all; harming the dungeons/guildhests/normal trials/normal raids that could use the mentor roulette peeps to fill them out and actually have a chance at clearing.
    1st one the advice do it unsycned isnt always helpful.. quite often the group that loaded into by DF are actually there because they wanna do it synced..

    2nd im perfectly fine with the mentor system being dropped down to arouns 1% of the current ones we have.. as a lot of them aint doing anything to help currently..

    Also as per my original post a faked D/C would result in a kick from party.. which as a mentor would result in a lockout upon returning to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    1st one the advice do it unsycned isnt always helpful.. quite often the group that loaded into by DF are actually there because they wanna do it synced..

    2nd im perfectly fine with the mentor system being dropped down to arouns 1% of the current ones we have.. as a lot of them aint doing anything to help currently..

    Also as per my original post a faked D/C would result in a kick from party.. which as a mentor would result in a lockout upon returning to the game.
    Oh? and what if someone has an internet outage or a spotty connection for 30mins? Are you going to punish them too because nature dictated they had to D/C?
    Welcome to the catch 22 of punishing D/Cers and why Square doesn't implement any. Because they'll impact genuine cases as well as those of people who want to circumvent, and there's no way to tell them apart from a coding point.

    Also, considering how rare it is to get EX in Mentor roulette anyway, leaving just the single EX isn't going to impact them much with your punishment, since chances are very high that's the only mentor roulette they're leaving that day.

    If they have the mindset to do it synced, there's PF, where they can recruit others that align with their mindset, rather than roll the dice and hope they get what they want (which will vastly not be the case.)
    teaching people to use unsync, or to use PF to find like-minded individuals to find a full party are factually good advice. Mentors have to deal with less, doomed to fail EX attempts, people who want to do synced find like minded individuals instead of getting sore that recruiting random people didn't give them exactly what they wanted, everyone wins.
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