Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
That's why I'm in this discussion.
I'm part of the problem you are so mad about and wanted to explain you why I "destroy" the market.

And it is quite simple, I don't care about money in this game. And many other don't care too, because there is nothing you can do with money.

And if you want to play the market game, then feel free to do it.
I have to deal with bad players who don't even know their class in savage content and you have to deal with player you don't know how to play the market board successful.
Everyone has to deal with some sort of bad players.
Do you sell 2 - 3 times 99 of a raw material, 10-15% under market value, don't check the history of what you're selling, and think you'll make a ton of quick GIL? No? Why are you in this thread then? If you sell what your retainer got from the last quick exploration, or what dropped at the last raid, I'm not talking about you. I don't sell much armor or weapons, it's an insane market I try to stay away from (except when my retainers find something worth more in GIL than in Company Seals). I'm talking about regular sellers of raw materials etc., that will do some insane stuff on the market that defies all logic. Normally I can clean it up after them, but sometimes it isn't worth it. I had a lucrative business selling full stacks of Oak Logs, kept the market stable, and made 300-400 gil per log in stacks of 99, until some guy saw a nice market, and jumped in, underbidding in large percentages. When I had forced him far enough down, I bought the few stacks he had, plus everything else under ~400 and started selling again. And he came back, the same guy, doing the same thing, so I dumped 2-3000 oak logs on the market at 149 GIL and left it. As I've tried saying, I don't go into the market unless I have at least 2000 of the raw material, or raw material to make 20 or more of a product, in my inventory. I keep 2 bags full of stuff just for the market, anyone buys, I refill it within minutes, anyone lowers their prices, I'll see it within an hour (16 hours a day, no I don't play actively that long, but my character is AFK in my house, next to the bell).