I don't understand it, I just do not understand it!

[Angelhearth]

Why do you care?
Buy the ones at low price from them and resell if you think are smarter.

And I do it, if the price is way too low. Otherwise, if we're talking raw materials, I normally force the price down, down, down, and then buy, leaving them looking silly when I up the prices again, and they are out, because they went into the market with just a couple of hundred of them, while I never go in with less than 2 full stacks.

[Darkmoonrise]

This thread title is the most accurate title possible. You don’t understand that people don’t care. And yet it’s an easy concept to grasp.
Maybe a less diplomatic way:

• People don’t care if you think you don’t make enough profit.
• You care about the market, but the market doesn’t care about you.
• People don’t care what your goal is.

Oh and by the way, you manipulating the price of raw mats is ok, but other lowering the price of what you sell isn’t? It's an awesome mental gymnastics you’re doing here. It looks like you don’t care about other doing profit too. wink! wink!

And I do it, if the price is way too low. Otherwise, if we're talking raw materials, I normally force the price down, down, down, and then buy, leaving them looking silly when I up the prices again, and they are out, because they went into the market with just a couple of hundred of them, while I never go in with less than 2 full stacks.

[Angelhearth]

Oh and by the way, you manipulating the price of raw mats is ok, but other lowering the price of what you sell isn’t? It's an awesome mental gymnastics you’re doing here. It looks like you don’t care about other doing profit too. wink! wink!

After they destroyed the market for me, why should I care about them? And I did it very openly, dumping the prices to a level where even an imbecile should understand I don't want to compete, just dump. That would have meant, to me, that it was an opportunity to buy. Most players don't understand that. If the prices are too low, buy. You might not make a profit as big as if you gathered, but you would make a nice profit nevertheless.

[Alien_Gamer]

Hmm, according to the merchant courses I took, when you're competing with others in the market you need to differentiate your product from theirs. When all products are functionally the same, you do this by lowering your price to make your product more attractive than your competitor.

Wow, it really does explain what was happening. Perhaps you should have taken that course.

[Angelhearth]

Hmm, according to the merchant courses I took, when you're competing with others in the market you need to differentiate your product from theirs. When all products are functionally the same, you do this by lowering your price to make your product more attractive than your competitor.

Wow, it really does explain what was happening. Perhaps you should have taken that course.

Do you go in with few items and set the price 25% lower than everyone else? Hmm, I wonder where you learned becoming a merchant? Sovjet Union while Stalin still ruled? China under Mao's rule?

[Curisu]

I can create it 30% cheaper then the market price.
Hmm, 5% of money gain is enough for me and I need my inventory space.
Lets just sell them 25% cheaper, it will sell out in no time and I can continue with my crafting because of the free inventory space I got now.

[Angelhearth]

I can create it 30% cheaper then the market price.
Hmm, 5% of money gain is enough for me and I need my inventory space.
Lets just sell them 25% cheaper, it will sell out in no time and I can continue with my crafting because of the free inventory space I got now.

And how much gil do you make that way, compared to finding a niche, keep that niche "clean", and sell at highest possible price?

[Curisu]

And how much gil do you make that way, compared to finding a niche, keep that niche "clean", and sell at highest possible price?

None, I don't even know what to do with my 150mil.
That's why I sell on a low price, because I don't need money and I could make someone else happy who bought the item for a cheap price.

But normally I undercut by a few hundred gil and not thousands.
But I don't really care, what do I need money for anyway?

[Angelhearth]

None, I don't even know what to do with my 150mil.
That's why I sell on a low price, because I don't need money and I could make someone else happy who bought the item for a cheap price.

But normally I undercut by a few hundred gil and not thousands.
But I don't really care, what do I need money for anyway?

So what you're basically saying is that as long as you have more than enough gil, no one else deserves to get any, isn't that correct?

[Curisu]

So what you're basically saying is that as long as you have more than enough gil, no one else deserves to get any, isn't that correct?

Everyone deserves money I just don't care enough to be up to date with the market.
I see the current lowest price, cut my price by 100-1000 gil and start selling it.

Also, I don't really know how I made all my money, I just sell the retainer stuff and desync everything.