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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I main SCH as well, and it's not that they can't heal through LD, it's that it takes up a lot of their resources to do so. I have yet to lose a DRK to LD on any healer I play, including SCH. You also should never have to be alone in healing the DRK back up. What the hell is your co healer doing? It is ridiculous to me that players who play healers have problems when the requirement amps up for them to do so.
    I specified solo play. And I stand by it. Addlo is on average an 18k heal so you need roughly ten casts to get a tank up. That's 20-25 seconds. Your strongest options are recitation excog if you have it (roughly 60k), ET addlo which is roughly 36k. So you're left with 70-80k to heal in 7.5s. 3 addlos/physics won't get you there without an extra cooldown/ressource. So basically to heal through LD you need, Recitation, Excog, ET and at least one stack, or some good faerie timing, or a crit.
    An argument could be made that it isn't good practice to hold onto so many cooldowns in the first place. Since you should be leveraging your full kit consistently.

    The bottom line is that, you can't use LD to reduce healing. If LD is popped, chances are the healer doesn't have any ressources in the first place (which led to your death). It's just a bad invuln through and through.

    Furthermore this is compared to what? HG, you don't even need to throw a single heal out. Superbolide is also golden because you can just let hp tick up for a bit and throw a single ressource out to get the tank back to acceptable levels. HLMG isn't as good but you don't need to top the tank up so it's also fine > one, maybe two ressource to get the tank to acceptable levels and continue as planned.
    All of the above invulns can be used to easily save a situation irrespective of available cooldowns AND can be used to actually reduce the required healing. LD accomplishes neither of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I stand by it being a scapegoat, because any situation that a DRK has to use LD already warrants the additional healing. It is your job to get players out of critical HP so they can survive unavoidable mechanics, which includes auto attacks at the tank.
    This is only true in very specific cases that I mentioned in my post. Even with a cohealer. Most of the time LD requires more healing than doing mechanics properly or other invulns. Not only is it more healing, but it's forced to be executed in a 10s window, there's no waiting for a group heal to top your tank off. A total dps loss if you don't have a WHM.

    Like I said, the times LD works in AST/SCH comp is if:
    • resolving the mechanic without invuln is as much/more healing that healing through LD. Rare, usually confined to ultimate fights.
    • You can ignore it and let the tank die (the boss dies before the end of walking dead). Very rare, totally dependent on your kill time.
    • Walking dead pops at the same time as a lot of required group healing. In which case you can leverage that group healing as normal and top off your DRK with the 1-2 ogcds you would need to use with any other invuln.
    • The AST co healer has ressources that will go unused (overcap) during the fight and can dedicate them to the LD without taking a dps loss.

    These cases are few and far appart. In fact, in the current savage tier this only consistently happens ONCE at the end of e8s. e5s shouldn't see any use of LD. e6s and e7s can have it worked in to accompany capping of ressources for the AST or the occasional group heals, but this only works because it is a planned and optimized endeavor. A lot of hoops have to be jumped through.
    Optimized groups without a WHM will not use LD unless they can twist things around to make it work.

    On the other hand, all other invulns are just used whenever because they simply provide a real, tangible benefit.
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    Last edited by EaMett; 09-09-2020 at 04:47 AM.

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