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    Player Vryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    In which case Hitler never gave any gay and other minorities any labels but instead euthanized; gassed them. He was a brutal tyrant with no remorse. It upsets me when I see people throw this word out without knowing the definition. It means National Socialist of course, but has far darker descriptions and implications and should only be used when accurate.

    Best to let this thread die. Whoever necro'd this topic got his kicks out and all it did was draw away attention from what was being discussed (housing, gameplay, etc.)
    It's also wrong to use it since the Nazis haven't existed since 1945 Germany, it's just used to slander people.
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    @Moderator

    Still waiting on this thread to be locked. The topic derailed a long time ago & it’s very rare people stay on the subject. This thread often results in arguments.

    We need regular moderation on the forums because this is ridiculous. The topic shouldn’t of gone on for this long.
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    @Moderators

    Let this thread hit 100 please.
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  4. #524
    Player Vryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    @Moderators

    Let this thread hit 100 please.
    So who here likes Iron Bru? We need something to talk about if we want it at 100.
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    I kinda miss when this thread was about 'Subtlety Vs Direct’ inclusion. Sure trying to convince people for the 21st time that no, we actually do not want LGBTQ+ characters with just one trait felt like banging my head against a wall, at least then it kinda had a a basis in the topic at hand!

    I would have liked to try and explain why I think despite their flaws, LGBTQ+ and apparent ‘identity politics’ organisations and movements really are still needed in the world given how equality laws are being rolled back and places like the UK are becoming more and more hostile to trans folk by the day, but I feel doing that here on a MMO forum would be like lighting a candle with slippery hands in a fireworks factory.

    Also, I do think its sad to call people degenerates for simply shipping fictional characters. Let people do what they want! Its not harming anyone. Besides, we are all gonna be degenerates in someones view. None of us are perfect!
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    Last edited by Hurlstone; 04-21-2022 at 01:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    The minute you give activists a hand, they will take the arm, and then they will press their advantage to the point you wished you never did anything for them. I may be cynical here, but I don't trust collectivistic type people, considering how they place the value of their identity above everything else. I would instead like this game not to be burned on their pyre.
    Well because if one dares to have a culture outside their view and collective it is evil and indoctrination and must be combated. They also call you names and uneducated. Don't you see comrade it's all the greater good. Don't mind the piles of corpses.
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    Love all the calls to lock this discussion sayings its not important, yet there are dozens of pages per day of people saying "this doens't matter, don't talk about it, lock it". Almost like it actually is meaningful, but they just want to stop any conversation about it. Its enough to almost say these people are against this sort of thing. Isn't there a term to describe people like that?
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  8. #528
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Love all the calls to lock this discussion sayings its not important, yet there are dozens of pages per day of people saying "this doens't matter, don't talk about it, lock it". Almost like it actually is meaningful, but they just want to stop any conversation about it. Its enough to almost say these people are against this sort of thing. Isn't there a term to describe people like that?
    A political position opposed to another political position? That's called politics.

    LGBTQ+ is group that has a political goal, ere go it is political. An individual can be gay, bi, lesbian, etc... without being a part of this group and can disagree with it. Why are y'all assuming gay, bi, lesbian, etc... are a monolithic people that the LGBTQ+ has a monopoly on representin
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    Last edited by Caurcas; 04-21-2022 at 02:16 AM. Reason: Hit daily post limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    A political position opposed to another political position? That's called politics.
    Being opposed the existence and/or visibility of people is not something that should be considered a political position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Being opposed the existence and/or visibility of people is not something that should be considered a political position.
    This. Its not political. Some people want to call things political to silence all conversation about it. Another standard troll technique.


    For everyone who says this doesn't matter, I would ask why this thread is being brigaded. Its swamped in posts trying to stop any discussion about the topic. If it doesn't matter, why are so many people against it and posting over and over?
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    Last edited by deadman1204; 04-21-2022 at 02:05 AM.

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