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  1. #41
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    How would an NPC be identified as LGBT? Special color, a big marker hanging over it's head? And what difference would it make when you're interacting with them to pick up or turn in a quest?
    The same way any of the multitide of NPCs that are identified as straight is. The obvious way being mentioning something like a wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, etc in passing or actually having that other npc also be in the game. For example, Chai-Nuzz and Dulai-Chai or a female quest npc asking the player to find their husband in the forest because he hasn't come home yet and she's worried. All that's needed is for the gender of the pairs be the same and voila.
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  2. #42
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    Haruka_R's Avatar
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    Fenix Starfire
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    Midgardsormr
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Our hairstylist ain't enough for you?
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  3. #43
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Haruka_R View Post
    Our hairstylist ain't enough for you?
    Have you seen him? He has no style and I refuse to accept him.
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  4. #44
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    Haruka_R's Avatar
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    Fenix Starfire
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Have you seen him? He has no style and I refuse to accept him.
    Has no style? The man has his own theme music.
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  5. #45
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    I have no issue with the LGBT community.

    To bigots and trolls well...
    Pretty much this. I'm all for them giving npcs flavor text "oh my husband sent me this, my wife that", things that already exist for straight couples and the few LGBT ones in the game already, though I haven't really noticed that many of either side.
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  6. #46
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruka_R View Post
    Has no style? The man has his own theme music.
    I don't know if style means getting dressed and doing your make-up in the dark just because you have theme music.
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  7. #47
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    Ruinfeild's Avatar
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    Ruinous Bear
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    Armorer Lv 90
    As an actual military vet. . .come on man. . .least use a different name when making troll post's like these.
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  8. #48
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    There are a few gay people in the world, they just don't have the "Look at me I'm a gay character" trope attached, the characters are treated like they are just there as part of the world and imo that is the absolute best outcome because gay people aren't any different from everyone else nor is a trans person nor is a lesbian and so on and so on, we are all just people that just happen to have a different preference.

    The number of people shown as LGBTQ+ is also low but that is reasonable because we are a minority.

    Small list of npcs I found
    -the couple for Wanderer's Palace HM, they were persecuted for being mixed race not for being same gender, this gives us a good idea that society does not care about sexual preference being the same gender, this type of view is further supported by Ishgard with Hume and Elezen affairs being the most scandalous of gossip.
    -"Stupid Sexy Rodegyn" guy, a reference to us but he is attracted to that Roe in universe
    -"Lower, Lower" Roe and dude scrubbing his back, again another reference to us but taken as in universe that Roe wants that man to give him a happy ending wink wink knudge knudge
    -Budunga tribe(the green tribe with Magnai) they are an all male tribe, they take male children either by force or trade, stands to reason that there would be at least 1 or 2 tribe members liking their fellow tribe members they grew up with(all boy school situation, it is more likely to happen than a mixed school).
    -Hingashi culture in general, male prostitutes who have no qualms with male clients, villain with obvious villain moustache in Hildabrand regularly sees males crossdressing.
    -EB ceremonies don't discriminate ever, in universe just shows how accepting the staff for the church there is.
    -Little Ladies Day 2018, the girl band group ask my male character was I waiting for my Senchestal implying they were thinking me as a princess, they didn't bat an eye at this so it is not unheard of a guy being pampered on Little Ladies Day, it is just not the norm.(sorta want a Little Ladies Day to actually go further along this route even if a side part of the event)
    -The current Rising event NPC couple, I fully take them as a couple, others take them as friends, no one is wrong in thinking either, you never ask so they never tell sorta like real life relationships.

    Representation for Representation sake usually leads to the character in question as a shallow puddle where their representation is all that matters I do not want that because I am sick of just being a token character in a story, we are people that have many different qualities that make us who we are.

    TLDR: There is plenty of representation and just adding more for the sake of it would just be obnoxious

    Also hi Titanmen running out of material or recycling it, I seem to remember an old version of this very thread a few years back, how long you been playing this waiting game.
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  9. #49
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I'm Trans and Pan.

    I agree that the few characters who most likely are members of the LGBTQ+ family should come out to the fans in the western world, maybe not in China or Russia, but (insert rude comment about the homophobic laws of those nations)

    There are a lot of hints that out of the scions several could be apart of our club. ie Alphinaud might be Bi and Trans, Urianger might be ace-demi with a bit of genderfluidity.

    Also, the style and themes of the game are very LGBTQ+, so it's kind of hard not to think that the production staff has influential LGBTQ+ members leading the designs for gear and zones.
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  10. #50
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    How do you know that? Are you just assuming every NPC is straight? Just because they're not flamboyant?

    Edit: Emet Selch was probably 101% gay.
    Emet-Selch was technically Bi, he kind of hinted at that in one of his speeches when he says he lived as a mortal. But he was Bi like Freddy was... because well... yah, just remember as Emperor, he set up a theater troop, gave them an airship flying fortress, and told them to enjoy the world. No straight guy would ever do that.

    Also besides his sass, and fashion, he actually drops a few hints in his dialog, in both the Japanese and English. Although the English track was a little gayer.
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