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  1. #391
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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    Im gay and i dont really care for npc being identified "as".
    Sure if they "lowkey" show it to us without being all rainbow and glitter. But honestly its not peoples problem either.
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  2. #392
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Seems like a sisterly bond to me. But then again I'm not thinking about the sexuality of teenagers either. That's super weird.
    It does seems many folks default to bi/lesbian when they see 2 close females. Bonds can be more than just sexual. A perfect example would be Fang & Vanille from XIII
    I mean, people awww at fictional teenage relationships all the time without it being weird or creepy. Why is it weird here? Are Disney movies creepy to you as well?
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  3. #393
    Player Vryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    I mean, people awww at fictional teenage relationships all the time without it being weird or creepy. Why is it weird here? Are Disney movies creepy to you as well?
    There is plenty of creepy crap in Disney movies and the tales they are based on are far worse. There is only pain and suffering in the house of the mouse. Also, people don't aww at a teenage relationships where I'm from they aren't even considered a relationship but more a phase.
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  4. #394
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    But then again I'm not thinking about the sexuality of teenagers either. That's super weird.
    Interesting that people say that about Ryne and Gaia, but not Squall and Rinoa- the couple that those characters are based on. Squall and Rinoa were teenagers too, after all.

    There are plenty of romantic stories about young, teenage couples experiencing a blossoming romance. Lots of stories delving into the romantic lives of teenage protagonists and their attempts to find dates. But for some reason I never see "it's weird that is story is about the sexuality of a teenager" when those characters are straight.

    Only when LGBT romance is involved is the "sexuality of teenagers is weird" line trotted out. I wonder why that is.
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  5. #395
    Player Vryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    Interesting that people say that about Ryne and Gaia, but not Squall and Rinoa- the couple that those characters are based on. Squall and Rinoa were teenagers too, after all.

    There are plenty of romantic stories about young, teenage couples experiencing a blossoming romance. Lots of stories delving into the romantic lives of teenage protagonists and their attempts to find dates. But for some reason I never see "it's weird that is story is about the sexuality of a teenager" when those characters are straight.

    Only when LGBT romance is involved is the "sexuality of teenagers is weird" line trotted out. I wonder why that is.
    It's trotted out because people don't want to see adolescent crushes, there is a word for people who enjoy that after all. It's creepy that companies get 25-30 yr olds to play as high school students having adult relationships. It's not just straight couples its LGBT as well. Do not sexualise children (anyone under 18) the principle is simple and people will react to it because it's disgusting, perverse and you should know better.
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    Last edited by Vryn; 04-19-2022 at 06:59 PM.

  6. #396
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    IkaraGreydancer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    Interesting that people say that about Ryne and Gaia, but not Squall and Rinoa- the couple that those characters are based on. Squall and Rinoa were teenagers too, after all.

    There are plenty of romantic stories about young, teenage couples experiencing a blossoming romance. Lots of stories delving into the romantic lives of teenage protagonists and their attempts to find dates. But for some reason I never see "it's weird that is story is about the sexuality of a teenager" when those characters are straight.

    Only when LGBT romance is involved is the "sexuality of teenagers is weird" line trotted out. I wonder why that is.
    Are they based on it or are those who YOU decide to link them with?
    Also when will you people stop trying to prove folks are phobes? I said I'm not thinking about the sexuality of a teenager. Not a straight, bi, lesbian or gay teenager. A teenager period. Stop trying to twist my words to prove a point. I'm not flying with that. If there was anything sexual shown in ShB between those 2 that's 100% your imagination. Once again, you can be close with someone without having sexual feelings for them. This seems more like desperate hope for representation
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  7. #397
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Are they based on it or are those who YOU decide to link them with?
    Also when will you people stop trying to prove folks are phobes? I said I'm not thinking about the sexuality of a teenager. Not a straight, bi, lesbian or gay teenager. A teenager period. Stop trying to twist my words to prove a point. I'm not flying with that. If there was anything sexual shown in ShB between those 2 that's 100% your imagination. Once again, you can be close with someone without having sexual feelings for them. This seems more like desperate hope for representation
    I don't think anything sexual was shown at all. Why would it be? FFXIV is a pretty sexless game in the first place, but that's fine

    There's a difference between romance and sexuality. You guys are the ones who keep bringing up sex and sexualization of teenagers, not me. I am strictly talking about romantic readings.
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  8. #398
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    Personally there's about 100 other character traits I care about first, who they want to sleep or cuddle with is really not in my interests. But to each their own.
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  9. #399
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    I don't think anything sexual was shown at all. Why would it be? FFXIV is a pretty sexless game in the first place, but that's fine

    There's a difference between romance and sexuality. You guys are the ones who keep bringing up sex and sexualization of teenagers, not me. I am strictly talking about romantic readings.
    Yet the point still stands. Where's the romance there? And I mean actual romance not headcanon mess.
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