Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[Theodric]

You don't really need the rainbow thing with Ryne and Gaia, the fact that thier whole relationship, including entire cutscenes and a lot of imagery, were very much lifted from scenes between Squall and Rinoa (one of the most explicit couples in the FF franchise) kind of makes it all come off as pretty gay.

I think people are free to draw their own conclusions on the matter. They behave like...so many other teenage girls do who are simply close friends. Just because it has some slight similarities in passing to some scenes in FFVIII it doesn't necessarily mean that it is exactly the same in terms of context. The development team rarely copy and paste plots directly from other titles anyway - there's usually a unique twist.

[KariTheFox]

I think people are free to draw their own conclusions on the matter. They behave like...so many other teenage girls do who are simply close friends. Just because it has some slight similarities in passing to some scenes in FFVIII it doesn't necessarily mean that it is exactly the same in terms of context. The development team rarely copy and paste plots directly from other titles anyway - there's usually a unique twist.

My point is that the use of the imagery makes it very easy to draw the conclusion that Ryne and Gaia are a couple. But yes, it wasn't explicit and you could decide their relationship was platonic if you really wanted.

It might be nice though, if there was an arc, sidequest or story beat about a less ambigous couple. Of course romance is rarely a focal point in FFXIV, but occasionally there's some, it'd be nice if when that happened, it was about a not straight couple this time.

[Minifie]

Seeing same sex couples around the place, even in quests would be nice, no harm in that, some nice sidequests where we help find suits for two catboys or something, or help dress up to au'ra, just making it completely normal (plus you can M+M and F+F eternal bonding), as long as we don't get some long-ass MSQ where Y'shtola is secretly a lesbian and we gotta go through some weird "make it accepted through Eorzea" stuff, since it already is, would rather prefer to find some place on the FAR right of the world map were we can go punch a bunch of dickheads oppressing stuff instead >.

[Lecru]

Seeing same sex couples around the place, even in quests would be nice, no harm in that, some nice sidequests where we help find suits for two catboys or something, or help dress up to au'ra, just making it completely normal (plus you can M+M and F+F eternal bonding)

Do tell how this is, in any fashion, completely normal for an MMO RPG. And what purpose it would serve. You already said you get inclusion for same sex weddings. And further, where are the quests to find "Suits" for same sex couples. Go ahead. I'll wait.

[Minifie]

Do tell how this is, in any fashion, completely normal for an MMO RPG. And what purpose it would serve. You already said you get inclusion for same sex weddings. And further, where are the quests to find "Suits" for same sex couples. Go ahead. I'll wait.

The fact you can have M+M and F+F couples in bonding ceremony instantly proves that these things do, would, and will exist in the narrative of the universe built.

I also never said there WAS quests like that, reread the post, if you would be so kind.

[Lecru]

The fact you can have M+M and F+F couples in bonding ceremony instantly proves that these things do, would, and will exist in the narrative of the universe built.

I also never said there WAS quests like that, reread the post, if you would be so kind.

It does not. It proves that SE was fair and included YOU, the PLAYER, in this activity. This is a game. not real life. And I suggest you differentiate the two before going forward in online gaming.

I did read the post. You talk about "Normalizing". We are Adventurers that go on quests to help others. This isn't a dating sim. This isn't a Bioware game.

[KizuyaKatogami]

My point is that the use of the imagery makes it very easy to draw the conclusion that Ryne and Gaia are a couple. But yes, it wasn't explicit and you could decide their relationship was platonic if you really wanted.

It might be nice though, if there was an arc, sidequest or story beat about a less ambigous couple. Of course romance is rarely a focal point in FFXIV, but occasionally there's some, it'd be nice if when that happened, it was about a not straight couple this time.

Except they specifically mention that Mitron is Gaia’s knight. Them giving some ff8 fanservice isn’t really telling imagery, especially when there’s numerous other examples of them being specified as friends. From the duty journal specifically saying friends, to Ryne herself stating she’s a friend etc. Again, can headcanon all you want, but as of right now canonically, there’s hardly anything pointing to them being any more than close friends who do what close friends do.

[KariTheFox]

Except they specifically mention that Mitron is Gaia’s knight. Them giving some ff8 fanservice isn’t really telling imagery, especially when there’s numerous other examples of them being specified as friends. From the duty journal specifically saying friends, to Ryne herself stating she’s a friend etc. Again, can headcanon all you want, but as of right now canonically, there’s hardly anything pointing to them being any more than close friends who do what close friends do.

I have said numerous times that there is room for both a platonic and romantic interpretation of their relationship (or if you want to use another word, 'headcanon'.) I'm not sure what your point is, or why you want so hard to invalidate a potential LGBT reading of that story.

[EaraGrace]

I have said numerous times that there is room for both a platonic and romantic interpretation of their relationship (or if you want to use another word, 'headcanon'.) I'm not sure what your point is, or why you want so hard to invalidate a potential LGBT reading of that story.

Just look at this platonic heart shaped plate of coffee biscuits!

https://twitter.com/oomori_ff/status...5roihJlLJ26r1Q



I agree that people are free to interpret as they please, but I think those in this thread should be mindful that thinking they’re together isn’t as crazy as some would be believe.

[hagare]

I am disappointed in the lack of yuri representation in the game. I thought it was a very popular tag.