Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[M0rrigan]

The irony of this thread, generally, is it is being moderated. Posts have been deleted by mods, yet the thread still stays up. While I did personally fall for the bait, I would think the mods would outright delete this thread by this point since the OP literally copy/pasted a reddit post from 2 years ago.

original reddit post

Why delete the thread when you can get rid of the creator instead, less headache in future moderating since it seems he's a known troll.

[SenorPatty]

Why delete the thread when you can get rid of the creator instead, less headache in future moderating since it seems he's a known troll.

Nexon used to do this in some forums. Consecutive forum offences would lead to a permaban from the forums. Then, if you were found to work around that issue, they'd ban you from the game, then consecutive bans would lead to a permaban.


Really surprised SE doesn't do that here.

[AnotherPerson]

Nexon used to do this in some forums. Consecutive forum offences would lead to a permaban from the forums. Then, if you were found to work around that issue, they'd ban you from the game, then consecutive bans would lead to a permaban.


Really surprised SE doesn't do that here.

Because although this guy is technically a troll, he also brought up a point of debate - and hence why people would debate on the issue so furiously. Even if this topic was talked about years ago, things change as with time. Old subjects may be re-looked at since people's perspectives and outlooks change. The point of debate itself isn't wrong. Banning someone for bringing up an old issue such as this would be unjustified unless it was a direct necro without any meaningful discussion.

Although he started igniting the spark of this topic, it's ultimately the players who feel very strongly about this topic who would speak up and continue the thread.

[Nanchi]

I honestly got whiplash from a few posts. As someone who is bi, I'd love to see more presensation but not for the cost of quality.
No matter if its straight or gay, there is no reason to bring sexuality into this game where it has zero relevance to the plot. And assuming (and borderline enforcing) the sexuality of a NPC who never stated it themselves, just goes into dangerous territory in my opinion. If there is one thing I cannot stand its announcing a character gay just for the sake of it. No substance, no relevance, but at least we got representation huh? I like our closest NPCs the way they are, because they show personality and depth. Their sexuality adds 0 to that, I couldn't honestly care less even if I tried. Now if they did a storychain for a random NPC where the topic revolves around that, fair point.

[xxvaynxx]

You know. The WoL can technically be gay or straight or bi.
Isn't that enough? because you can get married to another player character regardless of gender.


Because the only way to like...show off a clearly known LGBT character is if they like start doing the delivery moogle quest again.
And they also would have to be careful about it because this game is worldwide. But this in turn also pisses off other people because now it just feels shoehorned in just to check off the "have a lgbt character" box. That western devs have been doing lately.

I say moogle quest btw because it'll feel just too random and out of character for more important npc to just randomly tell you their gay or lezbean. Because where would they even find the time? Since gay couples and such is a norm in eorzea why would they even feel the need to tell you what gender theyre into?

[Alestorm]

You know. The WoL can technically be gay or straight or bi.
Isn't that enough? because you can get married to another player character regardless of gender.


Because the only way to like...show off a clearly known LGBT character is if they like start doing the delivery moogle quest again.
And they also would have to be careful about it because this game is worldwide. But this in turn also pisses off other people because now it just feels shoehorned in just to check off the "have a lgbt character" box. That western devs have been doing lately.

I say moogle quest btw because it'll feel just too random and out of character for more important npc to just randomly tell you their gay or lezbean. Because where would they even find the time? Since gay couples and such is a norm in eorzea why would they even feel the need to tell you what gender theyre into?

If handled well (IE not blatantly so/not the defining feature of the character) very few people will really care. It's when it's done poorly or the "this character's gay now because we said so" logic that's also been going around. Like you said, our WoL's can be anything since we make their backstories up ourselves.

Can we just please stop posting in Titanman threads and just report him? The guy's a troll with too much free time on his hands.

[Boa-Noah]

Can we just please stop posting in Titanman threads and just report him? The guy's a troll with too much free time on his hands.

Yeah but he'll just hop accounts anyways, it's not like the mod team cares since he can come back, change his name, and just do the same basic baiting ad nauseum and the mods either don't notice or don't do anything willingly.

[Curisu]

Well, how big is the lgbt community in the real world?
1%? Maybe less?

That means from 100 NPCs one is part of it.
So to meet 2 we have to meet about 200 different NPCs.

Also, they are normal just like everyone else, so from the small interactions we have with random NPCs we can Not say if the are LBGDT or not.
And if I remember right, then we already have met a few gay NPCs.
Well the whole azim step is full of NPCs who doesn't care about genderspezific roles.

[ForctyusGold]

i would be happy for some romance in that way via side quests o/
i dont like if it would be in main story or something, but why not === i must say i dont miss lack of LGBT NPCs because you can find those ppl behind irl characters there so uh

yep why not if someone missing them , im sure there is no way to say never

[Gothicshark]

Well, how big is the lgbt community in the real world?
1%? Maybe less?

That means from 100 NPCs one is part of it.
So to meet 2 we have to meet about 200 different NPCs.

Also, they are normal just like everyone else, so from the small interactions we have with random NPCs we can Not say if the are LBGDT or not.
And if I remember right, then we already have met a few gay NPCs.
Well the whole azim step is full of NPCs who doesn't care about genderspezific roles.

7 to 10% in the western world are out as Homosexual. The percentage of out Gay in nations where it is illegal is less than that. To get an accurate assessment of the total % of LGBTQ+ people in the world is impossible at this point in history, even in the "enlightened Western World" coming out can cost you a career, and ruin your life. I live in Los Angeles and being an Out Transgender Woman means I can no longer get a job in my chosen profession, even though I have a college education and years of experience doing the work. There is a reason only a small percentage of us are willing to come out. Trust me the numbers are much higher than you could guess.