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  1. #1061
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Panic Defense is a thing yes. It's unfortunate just as drunk drivers usually getting probation and maybe 3-8 years for killing someone(s) in a wrong way accident is unfortunate too. There's also "crimes of passion" where a man is enraged and murders a woman and is given a lesser sentences too, because he cant help how angry he was. You can't really save yourself in the case of the latter, but with the former...what makes the 'panic' excuse work, is that the person withheld what their prior gender was before this. Of course, this doesnt make what they did right, but it's in everyones best interest to be upfront about it first and to try to have proof of that should anything go wrong. A lot..no, all murders committed against transexuals are done by men and usually its men who didnt know or did know but claim that they didnt and so they were shocked when in reality, they just thought about it and realized that actually they hated it-what does any of this have to do with XIV again??
    Wait you're saying there isn't a woman on earth that has killed a transsexuals? That's a very hard one to believe.
    As far as what this has to do with xiv? Not much lol threads like these often spiral
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    Still waiting for the writers to finally give Cid and Nero the wedding they deserve. It will be beautiful.
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  3. #1063
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Meh. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequence. And let's be honest, as good and well-intentioned as the US's first amendment is, there are other amendments blocking parts of it, so it's really not as sacrosanct as it sounds.
    Freedom of speech literally is freedom from consequence. The government cannot prosecute you for your speech, that's the whole point. Other private citizens can choose not to associate with you or your business, private business can refuse to serve you (banning in a game over hate speech for ex).

    Shoving off all the people deemed bigots into remote corners and not letting them speak sounds great in theory. But you just force them into echo chambers where they will get no exposure to opposing viewpoints or maybe meet someone who will actually have them change their mind. They are much more likely to become radicalised in such situations.

    Personally if a small private business does not want to serve someone, that's their right imo. Even if their reason for doing so is utterly stupid. Refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple for example. If they are going to refuse you service based on your sexuality then take your money elsewhere and make it known to other lgbt they should too. Forcing them to bake a cake makes no sense to me, because you are paying them when they object to your existence. Why would you? On the same premise if someone wanted a business meant to serve exclusively lgbt, they should have the right to do so without being forced to serve straight + cis people. Each business is knowingly taking a loss and customers have no shortage of other options to choose from. Only exclusions to such things should be human rights such as healthcare. Refusing life saving treatment due to your religious views should indeed be criminal.

    Right wing politics is on the rise because people are frankly tired of being told what their views have to be and what they HAVE to do. And if you don't conform well you must be a bigoted monster, it's what a very loud minority of people are yelling about and being pandered too and it's gotten old. I believe in tolerance, you do you and accept others doing their own thing too. You don't have to like it, but you shouldn't be trying to punish or attack them for w/e they are or do. I really dislike religion but I have to tolerate and have some basic respect for people that practice even when their views are totally opposed to my own. Demanding more is not tolerance, you are just trying to bully people into compliance.
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  4. #1064
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batbrat View Post
    Panic Defense is a thing yes. It's unfortunate just as drunk drivers usually getting probation and maybe 3-8 years for killing someone(s) in a wrong way accident is unfortunate too. There's also "crimes of passion" where a man is enraged and murders a woman and is given a lesser sentences too, because he cant help how angry he was. You can't really save yourself in the case of the latter, but with the former...what makes the 'panic' excuse work, is that the person withheld what their prior gender was before this. Of course, this doesnt make what they did right, but it's in everyones best interest to be upfront about it first and to try to have proof of that should anything go wrong. A lot..no, all murders committed against transexuals are done by men and usually its men who didnt know or did know but claim that they didnt and so they were shocked when in reality, they just thought about it and realized that actually they hated it-what does any of this have to do with XIV again??
    Seeing as how informed consent cannot be given when a person is withholding important information from you, I'm surprised nobody has tried to sue and claim rape/sexual assault.
    Really is in your best interested for your own safety and the other parties right to informed choice to be honest and not hide who you are. I mean would you really want to sleep with someone who would find you disgusting if they knew the truth? You deserve someone who will accept you knowing everything.
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  5. #1065
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    Right wing politics is on the rise because people are frankly tired of being told what their views have to be and what they HAVE to do. And if you don't conform well you must be a bigoted monster, it's what a very loud minority of people are yelling about and being pandered too and it's gotten old. I believe in tolerance, you do you and accept others doing their own thing too. You don't have to like it, but you shouldn't be trying to punish or attack them for w/e they are or do. I really dislike religion but I have to tolerate and have some basic respect for people that practice even when their views are totally opposed to my own. Demanding more is not tolerance, you are just trying to bully people into compliance.
    Lmao no, right wing politics are on the rise because there is so much money behind it to back it up which cascades in tons of different ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ativan View Post
    I get that this whole conversation has really done a great job at making people aggressively ignore the statistics that we're talking about here. But, come on man. It's shitty, but there are so many shitty things that happen thousands of times more to LGBTQIA+ members. Stop acting like this thing that happened once every couple of years to one person which the last time was 8 years ago as some pattern of systemic thing that is being allowed to happen.

    What you're seeing is a proportionate amount (very small) of shitty legal cases that has affected a proportionate amount (very small) of humans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Lmao no, right wing politics are on the rise because there is so much money behind it to back it up which cascades in tons of different ways.
    You've described ALL politics. Not just right wing. Money and lobbyists behind the scenes have constituents arguing about stupid crap that are ultimately distractions as they make billions of dollars*

    *See - Pfizer
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    Last edited by LeonKeyh; 06-11-2022 at 10:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Lmao no, right wing politics are on the rise because there is so much money behind it to back it up which cascades in tons of different ways.
    Haha, what? Just the right wing? Damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Haha, what? Just the right wing? Damn.
    Quote Originally Posted by LeonKeyh View Post
    You've described ALL politics. Not just right wing. Money and lobbyists behind the scenes have constituents arguing about stupid crap that are ultimately distractions as they make billions of dollars*

    *See - Pfizer
    I love how both of you just pretend I said "just the right wing". There is a lot more capital behind right wing politics however because the people and corporations with tons of money profit more of them. Capitalism has always favored right wing policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I love how both of you just pretend I said "just the right wing". There is a lot more capital behind right wing politics however because the people and corporations with tons of money profit more of them. Capitalism has always favored right wing policies.
    Oh my... you sweet summer child. Maybe once upon a time you couldve claimed this. Probably back in the 60s or 70s. But definately not today, if you're living in the western hemisphere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Oh my... you sweet summer child. Maybe once upon a time you couldve claimed this. Probably back in the 60s or 70s. But definately not today, if you're living in the western hemisphere.
    I can claim this very easily right now. Sure, it's not everywhere as bad as it is in the US where both parties are turbo capitalists but we're unfortunately getting there.
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