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  1. #971
    Player Vryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I've tried explaining things to you so many times. The simple fact of the matter is that you don't care and you never will. By your own admission actually. You have this very twisted world view that things are only acceptable if a vague concept called "the majority" cares to accept someone's thing. People should not ever have to mold themselves to "the majority" unless what they are hurts people, which representation doesn't do. I've seen good arguments in this thread about why representation probably wouldn't work in this specific game, but you seem to not want representation in anything. Or rather you are actively against representation. So really I think the appropriate question here is; who hurt you?

    If you are tired of explaining it so many times and people have either not caught your meaning, you may not be the correct person to explain anything.

    The majority is the common man, the everyday individual. It's not that vague a concept. You are not forced to do anything, but the majority are not forced to accept you or even help you. I am actively against forced representation, not realistic representation. Having LGBT and straight people in a setting where required is fine, but in 99% of the story, it's not needed in any media unless you want to introduce children. It takes a man and woman to do that unless there is some form of a test-tube baby, but even then, you would like a man and woman to produce the best results.

    Having gay characters is fine. The recent Harry Potter movie did it very well, but the romance in that movie could have been removed, and it would have been the same. I am also the person who put up the point, which has been shown recently to be proven correct with Doctor Strange, that countries will ban it because they won't accept it, and you can't force them to.

    I don't need to be hurt to realise that my life is dependent on others and that it's not about me, something you have a tough time grasping. I am grateful for my life and the privileges of being allowed to live in a society where I am not persecuted or thrown off a roof for having open-ended sex. I am grateful that I can do 100% of the things others can do in this society freely without question. Still, unlike you, I confine that which others might seem insensitive, harmful to their children and even vulgar in my bedroom where it rightfully belongs, and even straight sex on TV has this effect and has turned a large number of shows into softcore porn.

    If you want to be accepted you also have to accept others' cultural standards, religions and dress codes. if you do not you will not achieve the same level of treatment they would show someone who does. You want to have your cake and eat it too.

    Like I said before many if you acted with nobility and fostered goodwill with the majority of society instead of whining about how life is unfair they might be more accepting of you.
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    Last edited by Vryn; 05-03-2022 at 01:09 AM.

  2. #972
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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenKitty View Post
    From 128 pages to 122... RIP this thread.
    Yeah it’s strange they just keep ninja deleting posts when this thread was quiet for a few days then once we it got a new post they deleted like seven pages. Clearly they wont actually offer input or anything on anything else on the forum but they are more than happy to do this.
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  3. #973
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    The majority wanting something doesn't make it right or even smart. The majority of "gamers" said paying for horse armor is fine. Not like it matters this late in the game, a lot of bad practices are common now thanks to the majority, at worst, becoming apathetic at the topic at hand. Oh well, lol.
    *drives away on the SDS Fenrir*
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  4. #974
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    Yeah it’s strange they just keep ninja deleting posts when this thread was quiet for a few days then once we it got a new post they deleted like seven pages. Clearly they wont actually offer input or anything on anything else on the forum but they are more than happy to do this.
    Is Square afraid to lock this thread, because then people would go:

    SQUAREENIX LOCKS THREAD DISCUSSING LGBT NPCS IN MMO. ARE THEY HOMOPHONES?

    More at 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    Is Square afraid to lock this thread, because then people would go:

    SQUAREENIX LOCKS THREAD DISCUSSING LGBT NPCS IN MMO. ARE THEY HOMOPHONES?

    More at 11.
    This channel stinks.
    *changes it*
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  6. #976
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    All I know is that this thread proved a lot of people to be bigoted to hell and back and it's hilarious how they haven't realized it xD

    Good show.

    ...suddenly I thought of "this dumb thread brings all the bigots to the yard" and I wish that song actually existed.
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  7. #977
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    Say it enough and it loses its meaning.
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  8. #978
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Say it enough and it loses its meaning.
    Say that phrase enough and it loses relevance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    Is Square afraid to lock this thread, because then people would go:

    SQUAREENIX LOCKS THREAD DISCUSSING LGBT NPCS IN MMO. ARE THEY HOMOPHONES?

    More at 11.
    That's literally the only reason why this is still up.
    They do the same thing on WoW forums and it's a very
    popular Hot Topic there with similar comments like this.

    The cycle continues.
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  10. #980
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    Lots of transphobic garbage being removed by the moderators should hopefully make it clearer to more people now that such blatant bigotry clearly goes against the forum’s terms of service.

    There sadly will probably still be ignorant remarks made in this thread though, like with one person who keeps defending themselves outrageously saying how it’s a shame to them that certain people don’t kill themselves, or some random individuals still being unhealthily obsessed with what genitalia a transgender person may have while the former individuals also disregard any scientific developments beyond what they may have learned at a basic level in high school many years ago, but I trust the moderators to keep addressing reports.

    Also, to anyone who claims that someone can’t be considered homophobic if they’re also gay themselves, look up what “internalized homophobia” is sometime.
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