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    Quote Originally Posted by Droxybrobotnik View Post
    They bring up because its a real thing that has happened. You cannot prop up writing with just saying you're taking a stance for minorities. Anyways, ff14 never portrayed itself as wanting to do that, it has no obligation to, and acting like everyone who don't choose to fight every minorities battle are against them is the most cringe thing ever.
    So does bad writing only annoy us when it's together with representation? Obviously the answer is no. So why is it so much more of a topic whenever representation is involved? My impression is that it's never about the bad writing or perceived bad writing but instead just about drumming up disdain for an outgroup.
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    Writing is central to every story focused game, so too to this one, that is about final fantasy. Tbh, the disdain i see in the comments are for people who tries to turn this into some major issue when it isn't one. Not all media has to represent minorities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    So does bad writing only annoy us when it's together with representation? Obviously the answer is no. So why is it so much more of a topic whenever representation is involved? My impression is that it's never about the bad writing or perceived bad writing but instead just about drumming up disdain for an outgroup.
    When a population that hardly had any representation until recently starts getting it and the most notable portion of characters (that is characters portrayed in big media installments) are poorly written (which will happen if the company tries to shove it to meet an invisible quota), it can create a bias against people from that population. Straight people has been the predominant type so, even if bad apples pop up there is enough good reference to soften the blow, which is why people pay less attention to those (though some are so hilariously bad they become a source of memes).

    How people react to that bias is up to each person, though. Some simply are skeptical, others cry murder. There are also people who's as muleheaded about this that they will replicate the same behavior of those who demand for content (games, movies, series, you name it) representing their collective but facing the opposite direction, with both compensating their lack of numbers by simply being noisier. As a matter of fact, you might notice that, since the necro 10 days ago, most of the post come from the same 4-5 people and the rest is a random poster giving his take and some lurkers staying just to throw peanuts for amusement.
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    Last edited by BokoToloko; 04-29-2022 at 12:39 AM.