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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    If my goal was to change people's minds, I'd likely have given up a long time ago. The fact of the matter is that this subject rubs against a lot of peoples core values in some way or another. People will often say they don't care while simultaneously throwing a fit about some manner of the subject. Also there isn't a lot you can do when people reduce an entire group of people down into one single point and disagree with that point. The fact that posts have been removed enough for us to notice a page loss multiple times means that people are at least looking at this thread. Sadly that's kinda all I can hope for on this forum.
    I think as far as adding it into the game most people don't care. The subject can get much broader which is where people will begin to disagree on things. You are basically turning a leaky faucet into a busted pipe when you go beyond if it should be in the game or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    I think as far as adding it into the game most people don't care. The subject can get much broader which is where people will begin to disagree on things. You are basically turning a leaky faucet into a busted pipe when you go beyond if it should be in the game or not.
    I see your point here and it would be nice if it were the case. It doesn't seem that way to me. If most people didn't care if it were added or not, then why the amount of pushback? Why any?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I see your point here and it would be nice if it were the case. It doesn't seem that way to me. If most people didn't care if it were added or not, then why the amount of pushback? Why any?
    Where is the pushback? I think a majority of the arguements through out this thread weren't even about the game itself, was mostly pop-political banter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I see your point here and it would be nice if it were the case. It doesn't seem that way to me. If most people didn't care if it were added or not, then why the amount of pushback? Why any?
    Because no one likes a hamfisted story. A character's sexuality should not mean anything to the story. If it's some blurb on the codex that doesn't screw the lore then who cares? Thing is that every story that had "representation" were very cringy. The only time I think I thought they did it well was in the Witcher 2. It wasn't shoved in your face but if you asked too many questions then of course it would come out. That's on you for being too nosey with a person's personal affairs, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Where is the pushback? I think a majority of the arguements through out this thread weren't even about the game itself, was mostly pop-political banter.
    As if on que here's some pushback right below you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Because no one likes a hamfisted story. A character's sexuality should not mean anything to the story. If it's some blurb on the codex that doesn't screw the lore then who cares? Thing is that every story that had "representation" were very cringy. The only time I think I thought they did it well was in the Witcher 2. It wasn't shoved in your face but if you asked too many questions then of course it would come out. That's on you for being too nosey with a person's personal affairs, lol.
    Straight couples exist in the main scenario in a way that you cannot ignore them; why not a gay couple? That's really the main thing people are asking for. For some it's the only thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    They exist because cause it pushes the story forward in a way an LGT character cannot aka having children. In both real-life and stories being LGT is effectively a dead-end lifestyle with no future or legacy at least the Bs have a choice to continue their bloodlines.
    Right so where are the Chai's kids? Also great way to reduce every relationship into one assumed goal of children.
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    Last edited by Xirean; 04-26-2022 at 03:38 AM.