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    Quote Originally Posted by Vryn View Post
    So square needs to come and say political, legal and economic speech isn't wanted in their game, put it in the ToS and shut down every one of these threads.
    Yoshida (link):

    "I was heading to the office on a Saturday and I saw a situation that made me very sad. I was trying to go into the office and I was waiting at a red light. I saw a high schooler coming from the other side of the road in their school uniform. It seemed that they were biologically male at birth but they were wearing a sailor fuku, which is traditionally female attire. In Japanese high schools, there’s more and more schools that are accommodating for freedom of not being restricted to a specific gender for your uniform...That person probably wanted to present the gender they identified with in their heart...On the other side of the road was a mother and a daughter. The daughter was perhaps 5 years old. As soon as the mother saw the high schooler, she shielded her daughter as if she didn’t want her daughter to see. The high schooler must have been very hurt. Situations like these still happen and there’s areas where there’s not as much understanding.

    We need to see more change in the values people have, and we need to consider for Final Fantasy XIV how we push forward in-game and how we represent it.

    That being said, we want to address this, and I think it will be gradual...For instance, for the Ceremony of Eternal Bonding, we’ve already started to make adjustments. Once we officially release this, you won’t have gender restrictions. If you both wanted to wear a dress, that’s perfectly fine. If you want to both wear the tuxedo, that would also be fine...That’s not available in game yet, but we have done the preparations for it.

    You may be familiar with the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Parade where we had a Final Fantasy XIV float participate. After that event, players in the Korean regions were very uncomfortable with it and people made complaints about now wanting to see that. “This is disgusting!” Things like that. It’s been very tough.

    Change is happening. People are becoming more aware and understanding. Values do shift, but I think the pace...is very different depending on individuals. It’s a difficult and delicate situation. It requires us to understand and know how things are around the world."

    Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Parade (link):

    "Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is an LGBTQIA+ not-for-profit member-based organisation that produces the internationally recognised Mardi Gras Parade and Festival, and several other events and supportive initiatives throughout the year."
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    CoD might be a good fit. LoL, maybe? Edit: Remembered Fortnite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    CoD might be a good fit. LoL, maybe? Edit: Remembered Fortnite.
    They won't play another game. They will regulate the market harshly, ban the companies that won't conform, and the majority will. Media is not a blank canvas for the creator's beliefs, and they have to respect the values, beliefs and traditions of their customers. Being more morally correct does not matter. The world is not fair. As long as most people disagree, it won't be shown, and it isn't. Even in the west, where companies go woke, they lose their fanbase because they dont want to see it either. Then the companies usually blame the fans because they aren't tolerant enough and hammer the last nail into their coffin.
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    Last edited by Vryn; 04-24-2022 at 11:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    CoD might be a good fit. LoL, maybe? Edit: Remembered Fortnite.
    shooter games = trash ;p so plus Lol is just bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekokaori View Post
    shooter games = trash ;p so plus Lol is just bad
    Oh, it's not for me. Someone said they'd be leaving if FFXIV didn't match their views, so I was trying to help them come up with some alternative games that would suit them. ( ᐛ )b
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekokaori View Post
    you want to know what my issue with that?

    I knew I was (t) letter since i was 12, So are you going to ignore that some kids go through the struggle of accepting themself? Because to be set in stone I'm just going to say it as it is I'm glad that things are opening things up more this days. When I was growing up I had no support I had self hatred and struggled daily I didn't even have access to the internet to do research to see if others could help me out. and My family well lets say i have lovely scars i have to either tattoo over or get lesser to get rid after i trusted them and told them

    This "For the kids we don't want this or this are that is a load of bs" and ignoring some kids and their struggles they go through
    Wow this discussion going different direction :3

    Children always shapes towards suggestion.
    If you keep suggesting something related with their religion, gender, view point or anything they will take it is as fact because they don't have ability to judge and ability to chose due limited experience about life.
    When they grow up they might alter or change their opinions, but it might be late for certain topics, they might regret it later on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insertusernamehere View Post
    Wow this discussion going different direction :3

    Children always shapes towards suggestion.
    If you keep suggesting something related with their religion, gender, view point or anything they will take it is as fact because they don't have ability to judge and ability to chose due limited experience about life.
    When they grow up the might alter or change their opinions, but it might be late for certain topics, they might regret it later on.
    thats bullshit and you want to know why I grew up in the bible belt small town and I hate christanity with every fiber in my body it doesnt shape the child lol I mean if it drilled into their headbrainwashy it "can" but no its not lol I had noone suggesting to me in fact i was ment with being emotionally abused and physically abused went through 13 YEARS of torture because i mention I was a girl ...

    so No your wrong and ur bullshit is wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekokaori View Post
    thats bullshit and you want to know why I grew up in the bible belt small town and I hate christanity with every fiber in my body it doesnt shape the child lol I mean if it drilled into their headbrainwashy it "can" but no its not lol I had noone suggesting to me in fact i was ment with being emotionally abused and physically abused went through 13 YEARS of torture because i mention I was a girl ...

    so No your wrong and ur bullshit is wrong
    Yep those ideals shouldnt have been pushed on you as a child thanks for proving my point =) let kids grow up and learn to make educated decisions based on facts not feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forsakee View Post
    Yep those ideals shouldnt have been pushed on you as a child thanks for proving my point =) let kids grow up and learn to make educated decisions based on facts not feelings.
    okay lets accept your logic no more allowing kids to be taken into churchs no more allowing kids to have to say pledges no more forcing sports on kids..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekokaori View Post
    okay lets accept your logic no more allowing kids to be taken into churchs no more allowing kids to have to say pledges no more forcing sports on kids..
    Strange I got no issues with that.... can we agree to stop pushing "sexuality on kids now"?

    Also if you where abused as a child I think your parents are POS and I'm glad you escaped and are alive.
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