I'm not even sure why this thread went so off the rails in the first place. It never needed to be anything more than people agreeing or disagreeing with the idea of more 'representation'.

It's simply not uppermost in the mind of the majority of the world's population to think constantly, all the time, about complicated issues that ultimately only affect a very tiny portion of the overall population.

I daresay attempting to force, threaten or scare people into going along for the ride is going to have the opposite effect. Which in itself annoys me since that's exactly the sort of thing that causes the pendulum to swing too far in the opposite direction.