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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    A political position opposed to another political position? That's called politics.
    Being opposed the existence and/or visibility of people is not something that should be considered a political position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Being opposed the existence and/or visibility of people is not something that should be considered a political position.
    This. Its not political. Some people want to call things political to silence all conversation about it. Another standard troll technique.


    For everyone who says this doesn't matter, I would ask why this thread is being brigaded. Its swamped in posts trying to stop any discussion about the topic. If it doesn't matter, why are so many people against it and posting over and over?
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    Last edited by deadman1204; 04-21-2022 at 02:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    This. Its not political. Some people want to call things political to silence all conversation about it. Another standard troll technique.


    For everyone who says this doesn't matter, I would ask why this thread is being brigaded. Its swamped in posts trying to stop any discussion about the topic. If it doesn't matter, why are so many people against it and posting over and over?
    Because it clearly does matter to the people who keep dishonestly saying nobody cares, or they wouldn’t keep being so obsessively opposed to increased representation, disingenuously only talking about sexual attraction that clearly wasn’t what was being initially requested over romantic attraction, or being rudely persistent with using problematic language; lots of people clearly do care, hence requests for increased representation.
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    Back in my WoW days, just after MoP launched, I tried to do a thread similar to this on another forum. I had noticed rather a few quests in Pandaria which involved husbands and wives, and floated how it would be neat if perhaps we could see some LGBTQ rep in quests like that (At the time I think WoW's only representation on that front was a Dwarf mistaking a Blood Elf for a woman...) The thread was locked in four pages of non-stop, open homopobia and I was told by a mod not to ever start a thread like that again. I got some people agreeing with me, but only via DMs so... despite how fustrating this thread is, I would say in gaming terms things are getting a little better with more open support at least. Still a long way to go, and thats not even mentioning the so-called ‘political’ side of things and how the real world currently is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    Back in my WoW days, just after MoP launched, I tried to do a thread similar to this on another forum. I had noticed rather a few quests in Pandaria which involved husbands and wives, and floated how it would be neat if perhaps we could see some LGBTQ rep in quests like that (At the time I think WoW's only representation on that front was a Dwarf mistaking a Blood Elf for a woman...) The thread was locked in four pages of non-stop, open homopobia and I was told by a mod not to ever start a thread like that again. I got some people agreeing with me, but only via DMs so... despite how fustrating this thread is, I would say in gaming terms things are getting a little better with more open support at least. Still a long way to go, and thats not even mentioning the so-called ‘political’ side of things and how the real world currently is.
    Yeah, it's still not all that different now on their forums, to be honest. lol There was a thread yesterday about someone Blizzard featured on their stream, and it was a mixed bag at best. The chat during the stream was, from what I've heard, pretty terrible. Here it's...really not all that different, as this thread plainly shows. Such is the internet. People enjoy the comfort of their anonymity. But I do agree that as far as gaming goes, the industry has definitely come a long way (by comparison to doing nothing, at least) when it comes to overall representation.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 04-21-2022 at 03:10 AM.