Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[HollowedDoll]

The fact that conversion camps still exist would suggest that no, people don't know this and will use extreme measures to make sure people choose the right "preference".

Ah, yes let's use an extremist group for our argument, because that makes up the grand majority of people.

Btw I'm glad you are single-handledly stopping conversation therapy by posting and policing language on a game forum, all the while excusing slurs like queer being used.

[Kyrj]

Are you guys still taking a Militaryvet123 thread seriously?

lol why?

[Theodric]

The fact that conversion camps still exist would suggest that no, people don't know this and will use extreme measures to make sure people choose the right "preference".

That's a localised issue and this is a sub-forum that serves the entirety of the English speaking portion of the game's player base. As such, I don't think that this is really an appropriate place for people to be going deep into complex and heavy issues.

By all means, ask for whatever you so wish to be added to the game. Just please accept that not everyone is going to agree for various different reasons.

Attempts to try and force people to rally behind a banner when most people have plenty of their own problems to deal with is liable to do more harm than good. It's not even that many people don't have sympathy or care about a specific cause. It's that they have no need to be dragged into someone else's movement.

I won't say exactly where I live for obvious reasons, though the various local causes that are of interest to me are not things I would expect someone on the other side of the world to get involved with. I only ask the same respect in turn towards myself and others.

[SieyaM]

Ah, yes let's use an extremist group for our argument, because that makes up the grand majority of people.

Btw I'm glad you are single-handledly stopping conversation therapy by posting and policing language on a game forum, all the while excusing slurs like queer being used.

Oh yeah and pretending that they don't exist and taking this lofty condescending attitude also on a message board is doing wonders to help as well.

[JTWrenn]

I don't feel like anyone in the game is actually labeled either way. I mean, is there any love interest shown? Seems to me that at least in the main story nobody has mentioned a love interest at all. So really the representation of straight vs LGBTQ+ is kind of the same.

[Jybril]

What would the LGBT characters do or say so we know that they are LGBT?

[Faafetai]

Let's all be real though, ffxiv is a shonen anime. No one even holds hands in anything, and relationship are far from transparent. Just a whole lot of fan service, and zero pay off like Lucy and Natsu from fairy tail save for possibly the spin off series. It is honestly just how it will always be the closest you are going to get is the bro mance between Aymeric and Estinien. People are born from stork delivery, and there are not even multiple race children that I know of unless they all just look like one other race like Asari from mass effect. So lala plus roe equals lala. elezen plus a human equals elezen even though garlean would make a ton of sense. What I am getting at is this was started as a troll thread and we do not even get to romance anyone ourselves within ffxiv, so at the moment it feels like no representation of literally anything but sterile plutonic pats on the booty.

Really? I seem to recall early 90's anime which had gay couples in it, but when they got localized in the west they were just "good friends".
From my perspective the west has been far too late to accept homosexual relations, and nowadays are rebounding way way wayyyyy too far in the opposite direction to try and compensate.

I think you are thinking of Sailor Moon. They made them cousins >.< it just made all of the scenes interesting to say the least knowing the japanese and wondering what the censorship department was getting at. Though I do recall other 90s anime having similar things I would have to dig up the knowledge.

Edit: Oooooooh Berserk also! but unsure of year time frame of when it started. Also Revolutionary Girl Utena, I almost forgot about that one as well it is an oldie but I remember liking it when I was younger.

[Roflcopter]

Let's all be real though, ffxiv is a shonen anime. No one even holds hands in anything, and relationship are far from transparent. Just a whole lot of fan service, and zero pay off like Lucy and Natsu from fairy tail save for possibly the spin off series. It is honestly just how it will always be the closest you are going to get is the bro mance between Aymeric and Estinien. People are born from stork delivery, and there are not even multiple race children that I know of unless they all just look like one other race like Asari from mass effect. So lala plus roe equals lala. elezen plus a human equals elezen even though garlean would make a ton of sense. What I am getting at is this was started as a troll thread and we do not even get to romance anyone ourselves within ffxiv, so at the moment it feels like no representation of literally anything but sterile plutonic pats on the booty.





I think you are thinking of Sailor Moon. They made them cousins >.< it just made all of the scenes interesting to say the least knowing the japanese and wondering what the censorship department was getting at. Though I do recall other 90s anime having similar things I would have to dig up the knowledge.

Edit: Oooooooh Berserk also! but unsure of year time frame of when it started.

There are some animes with overtly LGBT characters. Fruits Basket. Steel Angel Kurumi. Ghost in the Shell. Ranma 1/2 (I mean Ranma is more or less non-binary at least and seems to enjoy being both). Gundam 00.

[Hurlstone]

Fantasy, a genre well known for never depicting romance or love between characters. Especially Final Fantasy, no games in that franchise that have a romantic plot as a central element, nope.

Honestly I never get the whole ‘Politics should not be included in fantasy’ argument. I find that it, and Sci-Fi, are one of the best creative palettes to explore almost every issue important to mankind. Like Star Trek in sci-fi regards, and the politics of FF7, often regarded as the best fantasy video games of all time, just keeps getting more and more poignet as the years go on. Then again, I also think its nearly impossible to create a work of fiction that is apolitical. We are all guided by our believes, values, morals etc. and writers are no exception.

[Faafetai]

There are some animes with overtly LGBT characters. Fruits Basket. Steel Angel Kurumi. Ghost in the Shell. Ranma 1/2 (I mean Ranma is more or less non-binary at least and seems to enjoy being both). Gundam 00.

Aye! I knew I was forgetting many I can't believe I didn't mention ghost in the shell and fruits basket. I still need to watch Ranma 1/2(the small amount I seen it was adorable),Steel Angel Kurumi, and gundam 00. It is usually more common in seinen anime or manga, usually it is low key especially in the more young adult or slice of life unless that is the focus. For final fantasy I get many pansexual vibes because no matter what your wol may be characters seem to crush hard even if it isn't in your face announced. I like the subtle inclusion of things like when watching The Expanse. The characters where just characters that happened to have a preference one way or the other.