Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[IdowhatIwant]

Is this back. Why does every one feel the need to be represented in everything. It is such a petty ideal, that forces things to include things regardless how it fits in the narrative. Stop just stop, not every one needs to be represented in everything.

[Hurlstone]

There are benefits to both storytelling that is subtle and open to interpretation, and storytelling which actually aims to make a point and explore specific themes. The game should not ‘pigeon hole’ itself into one form of creative expression for specific aspects. Thats just cutting of interesting and potential ways to explore the worlds characters and lore.

[Toutatis]

For example, I'm strongly certain that Ryne and Gaia are a young gay couple. I don't mind of others head canon them as just friends, however I do take issue with people demanding that my interpretation is wrong.

Maybe most people don’t have the same interpretation as you because LGBTQ form about 3% of the population and people tend to simply go with what they are used to. It’s a game and people are free to imagine whatever they want. I personally never imagined those two adolescent npcs as a couple. Not everything has to be sexualized.

SE left many things opened to personal interpretation/imagination, including WoL’s relationships and it’s all right.

[Xirean]

Maybe most people don’t have the same interpretation as you because LGBTQ form about 3% of the population and people tend to simply go with what they are used to. It’s a game and people are free to imagine whatever they want. I personally never imagined those two adolescent npcs as a couple. Not everything has to be sexualized.

SE left many things opened to personal interpretation/imagination, including WoL’s relationships and it’s all right.

And right there is where you misunderstand the situation. People being a couple is NOT them being sexualized.

[KariTheFox]

SE left many things opened to personal interpretation/imagination, including WoL’s relationships and it’s all right.

Until someone uses their personal imagination and interpretation to read Ryne and Gaia as a couple, apparently.

[Caurcas]

It's the zeitgeist of the time. A political issue divides people into tribes, and these tribes conflict. Also, it is inherently sexual, so no wonder it creeps most people out.

[Xirean]

It's the zeitgeist of the time. A political issue divides people into tribes, and these tribes conflict. Also, it is inherently sexual, so no wonder it creeps most people out.

Care to explain how?

[Caurcas]

Care to explain how?

It's in the title, and is a relationship defined by sexuality. Not hard to understand.

[Xirean]

It's in the title, and is a relationship defined by sexuality. Not hard to understand.

So any romance of any kind is sexual to you?

[KizuyaKatogami]

That's not really what 'canon' means from a literary standpoint. Canon isn't true or false, and I think it's weird to talk about literature in those terms. Canon doesn't deal with interpretation at all. It just refers to the actual contents of the text put in front of the viewer. The music, the scenes, the dialogue. Anything the viewer takes out of that becomes interpretation.

"Ryne and Gaia are friends," is an interpretation. "Ryne and Gaia have a sisterly bond," is an interpretation. "Ryne and Gaia have a blossoming romance," is an interpretation.

Eden's story was left pretty open ended and ambigious, and the text supports multiple readings and interpretations. That's the beauty of storytelling, different people could come away with completely different readings of the same story, and that's a good thing.

A word to describe something that is true to the original story.

Things considered “canon” are basically considered “true” (in the story).

-Similar Words:
Not Canon; Something that isn’t true to the original story.
Head-Canon; Usually used when someone creates their own AU (Alternate Universe), and adds their own “canon” part in their story.

I don’t see what was ambiguous when the journal and story itself states they’re close friends, that Ryne wants to save her friend.

Would you take that stance if they were not both girls and nothing else about the writing changed?

Yes, simply because the writing and journal states that theyre friends. It is never stated to be anything more than that, especially if you bring Mitron into the picture and if you want to take the savage version as context, she seems to still care for him. Loghrif and Mitron are said to have been romantically involved. We can use that as a template to compare that to ryne and gaia and they arent very similar whatsoever.

There are a lot of "relationships aren't a part of the story or quests" posts but aren't there a load of side quests where you're helping someone find their husband/wife or something like that where it is very clear that two heterosexual people are in a relationship. Also do we not remember Dulia-Chai and Chai-Nuzz, who are very clearly in a relationship and a prominent part of the ShB story. So yes there are lots of instances of heterosexual couples everyone just doesn't notice it because its so "normal".

There are also side quests involving gay npcs though. Theres one again, wanderers palace npc's that are both explicitly gay. Theres those two guys in kugane where the one falls in love with the actor who portrays a woman and then they meet and the guys says he doesnt care that hes a man. You have various npcs around the world that are bi or gay as well.