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  1. #371
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KariTheFox View Post
    My point is that the use of the imagery makes it very easy to draw the conclusion that Ryne and Gaia are a couple. But yes, it wasn't explicit and you could decide their relationship was platonic if you really wanted.

    It might be nice though, if there was an arc, sidequest or story beat about a less ambigous couple. Of course romance is rarely a focal point in FFXIV, but occasionally there's some, it'd be nice if when that happened, it was about a not straight couple this time.
    Except they specifically mention that Mitron is Gaia’s knight. Them giving some ff8 fanservice isn’t really telling imagery, especially when there’s numerous other examples of them being specified as friends. From the duty journal specifically saying friends, to Ryne herself stating she’s a friend etc. Again, can headcanon all you want, but as of right now canonically, there’s hardly anything pointing to them being any more than close friends who do what close friends do.
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  2. #372
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minifie View Post
    Seeing same sex couples around the place, even in quests would be nice, no harm in that, some nice sidequests where we help find suits for two catboys or something, or help dress up to au'ra, just making it completely normal (plus you can M+M and F+F eternal bonding)
    Do tell how this is, in any fashion, completely normal for an MMO RPG. And what purpose it would serve. You already said you get inclusion for same sex weddings. And further, where are the quests to find "Suits" for same sex couples. Go ahead. I'll wait.
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  3. #373
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Do tell how this is, in any fashion, completely normal for an MMO RPG. And what purpose it would serve. You already said you get inclusion for same sex weddings. And further, where are the quests to find "Suits" for same sex couples. Go ahead. I'll wait.
    The fact you can have M+M and F+F couples in bonding ceremony instantly proves that these things do, would, and will exist in the narrative of the universe built.

    I also never said there WAS quests like that, reread the post, if you would be so kind.
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  4. #374
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minifie View Post
    The fact you can have M+M and F+F couples in bonding ceremony instantly proves that these things do, would, and will exist in the narrative of the universe built.

    I also never said there WAS quests like that, reread the post, if you would be so kind.
    It does not. It proves that SE was fair and included YOU, the PLAYER, in this activity. This is a game. not real life. And I suggest you differentiate the two before going forward in online gaming.

    I did read the post. You talk about "Normalizing". We are Adventurers that go on quests to help others. This isn't a dating sim. This isn't a Bioware game.
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  5. #375
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    I am disappointed in the lack of yuri representation in the game. I thought it was a very popular tag.
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  6. #376
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    For those in the "how to tell you didn't read my post without saying you didn't read my post", here it is. A personal opinion, saying what I would like to see, nothing more, If people saying "hey I'd like this, would be fun" somehow flares up the incel masses, so be it. Enjoy.

    Seeing same sex couples around the place, even in quests would be nice, no harm in that, some nice sidequests where we help find suits for two catboys or something, or help dress up to au'ra, just making it completely normal (plus you can M+M and F+F eternal bonding), as long as we don't get some long-ass MSQ where Y'shtola is secretly a lesbian and we gotta go through some weird "make it accepted through Eorzea" stuff, since it already is, would rather prefer to find some place on the FAR right of the world map were we can go punch a bunch of dickheads oppressing stuff instead >.
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    Titanmen found a way to bring this back to life
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  8. #378
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    I mean, Dragons are literally Nonbinary and this is mentioned in MSQ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    We are not exactly saying an NPC coversation should start with "My name is U'lagar, I'm a cis bisexual Elezen and I need you to pick 20 herbs for my ailing lover, who is a trans lesbian Roegadyn." More that given how many quests in gaming do make casual mention of a NPCs partner, whats the harm if refering to a same sex partner was a little more common then it already is?
    You sicken me with your lore inaccurate name. That's a Miqo'te Seeker of the Sun name of the U tribe with the first name of Lagar. I raise my nose up at you.

    Also, wouldn't be harm, but it's useless flavor text for some nobody NPC. Unless they tie an Aether Current to it, I won't likely touch the side quest since their rewards are garbage, even if I just have to kill 3 bears to harvest their butts. But also, the Warrior of Light doesn't need to know the marital status of every person they come across for one important reason;

    It. Doesn't. Matter.

    For all we know, Redolent Rose could be gay, but we don't care because he's here to teach us how to synthesize trousers and dress like a clown in a fashion contest for 60k MGP a week. It just simply isn't our business to know the sexuality, gender identity, and political spectrum leaning of every NPC we come across, or even recurring ones.

    Just like how it isn't my business what yours may be, as I mainly came here to correct that Sun Seeker Miqo'te name you gave the Elezen.
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  9. #379
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    Really? The last thing I want to see is political correctness/SJW/virtue signalling or w/e is it making their way into Japanese MMORPGs. We have enough of that crap on western Twitter already.
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  10. #380
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    I say let the devs do as they please and tbh this game barely has romance so I don't think sexual orientation matters there.
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