Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[Gothicshark]

Pretty sure OP hasn't played against the "last boss" of 5.3 yet. Woman body, male voice. Nuff said ;P

The term you are looking for is bishounen, and it's actually a trope in Japanese entertainment. The thing is bishounen is not seen as queer in Japan, it's seen as powerful, rich, and in control.

[KayRadley]

Pretty sure OP hasn't played against the "last boss" of 5.3 yet. Woman body, male voice. Nuff said ;P

That's not a woman, just an androgynous man.

[DPZ2]

"Sired" usually implies the "Act" of "Making" them. Two Men cannot "create" Children of their own. Just choosing my words carefully here to not get a ban or anything.

What ever gave you the idea that gay males never have female partners? Or that a gay man cannot be married to a woman and have children?

Your carefully chosen words were not in your earlier post.

[Zorvan]

What ever gave you the idea that gay males never have female partners? Or that a gay man cannot be married to a woman and have children?

Your carefully chosen words were not in your earlier post.

One could take this to mean gay males see females as nothing but breeding stock.

[Veis_Alveare]

What ever gave you the idea that gay males never have female partners? Or that a gay man cannot be married to a woman and have children?

Your carefully chosen words were not in your earlier post.

If you're gay and having children with a woman that's called being bi.

Its also cool and also totally fine to be.

[Gothicshark]

One could take this to mean gay males see females as nothing but breeding stock.

How do people do this? Seriously equating a Gay man making a child with a woman, and going to "Sees them as Breeding stock."

I'm only attracted to men, I'm a Transgender Female, but when I was pretending to be male back in the 90s, I was married to a woman. We did married couples things. I still love her, even though I couldn't give her the love she deserved. Gay men can and often do have women they love, and might even have skinship with. This does not mean they think of them as a womb only. Also on this note, back in the wayback machine, when being Gay was illegal in most of the USA ie 2003 (Lawrence v. Texas). Gay men and lesbian women would often marry and have kids to hide that they were gay. Tons of famous actors fell into this category, where they married for a press release, and had kids to prove they were straight.

Now straight men, on the other hand especially in very religious circles, and in very religious nations do often think of women as a womb to bare Boy children. But this is not a discussion of the danger of conservative monotheism and the danger it holds to western civilization.

[Gothicshark]

If you're gay and having children with a woman that's called being bi.

Its also cool and also totally fine to be.

Yes and no, Bi & Pan sexualities mean you are sexually attracted to more than one gender/sex. Gay like Heterosexuality, is only attracted sexually to one thing. Now the thing is, people can have sex with people they are not attracted sexually to, in fact, this happens all the time. I can think of a hundred real-world examples of this. Also you don't even need sex to make children in a technological civilization. And since this whole tangent revolves around someone from a technological civilization that has mecha, and cloning. One can not assume that the person in question ever had a sexual relationship.

[Boa-Noah]

I'm not particularly bothered but mainly because the sexual tastes and orientations of the NPCs around me don't come up regularly, like if Alphinaud was dating a boy or something then yeah, sure, introduce his boyfriend during a cutscene or something stupid, but there's way more going on in the story beyond who or what Alphinaud is attracted to... Like, don't get me wrong, but with all the fighting against world ending threats and delving into the mysteries of Primals and Ascians there's not much time for characters to be really blatant or vocal about their orientations, I think the closest is maybe Alisaie and Tesleen where they could've hinted the two were in love or something without it being really shoehorned in.

As for the random city NPCs and basically filler content it's just not that important really, do you really need the baker in some shithole village hooking up with the florist of the same gender to get some representation? I mean, like, the world outside of actual characters is blatantly boring and pointless, I fly through these little villages without a care in the world and I don't really feel like anyone out there SHOULD be invested in them, they're nameless faces recycled with different clothing pretending they have some vague kind of life beyond just being decorations.

Would I have liked to see some gay characters in the roster of ACTUAL characters? Sure, but SE did give us the most important representation LGBT players can have, namely same sex marriage.

In this game you, the main character, can be 100% gay and you can be 100% with anyone else of your mutual choice, and it's something that has an actual vague impact on the game (the teleportation ring namely) and that to me is way better than NPCs awkwardly bringing up their sexuality or gender identity in what is a story revolving around the fate of the multiverse. Again, don't get me wrong here, it'd be nice to have a side story or a little quest chain about helping one of the NPCs out with a date as just a little fun thing to do, but I'd really rather not have gender/sexual choices being kind of awkwardly inserted where it really doesn't belong just for some vague 'representation'...

You can be yourself in this game, no one judges you for it, isn't that WAY more representation than 'oh those gay village dudes with no name'.

[MilitaryVet123]

There has been a consistent theme in this thread that I've noticed: apparently LGBT representation is fine as long as it does not offend the heteronormative world view.

[FedoraTheExplorer]

Whilst I recognise this is a troll thread, oof has this opened a whole can of worms. Some of you should not be allowed to talk about LGBT rep at all.