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  1. #151
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Well I am gay and "Queer Coding" sounds like a perpetuation of harmful streotypes to force a headcannon to which the character is gay in your mind.

    Flamboyant =/= gay.
    "Queer Coding" does perpetuate stereotypes, just like "queerbaiting", "bury your gay's", and other tropes use in entertainment. It doesn't change that the dev team made a villain who was very clearly coded queer, who by the end gets killed. This isn't a case of headcanon, this is a case of typical queer coding, with a bit of queerbaiting, and bury your gays. What is Emet-Selch's sexuality, unknown, but he's coded queer, and then killed.

    If you want to avoid stereotypes in entertainment than the use of flamboyant characters needs to stop until the stereotype goes away, as it is, they queer code a lot of side characters, and place them in stereotypical gay employment, and even if you follow the post moogle storyline, shirk their family duties for sake of their stereotypical gay employment.

    But not just entertainment, we ourselves need to stop living the stereotypes, because we as a community have the habit of living up to the sterotype. Just go to any hair salon, ask the guys "are you gay?", guess what most will say? Why do we follow these trends? Why do we live up to the Hollywood designed stereotypes?

    Uggg I could rant and rave about that for hours.

    So before you say "harmful stereotypes" look in a mirror and ask your self, "what am I doing to avoid them?"

    Me, I worked as a Motorcycle mechanic before coming out trans, I listen to deathrock, metal, gothic, and industrial. I've made it a point to never act queer in public, and even now after coming out and transitioning female, I still live my life for myself without following stereotypes.

    Every time I go to West Hollywood (I live close), I'm amazed how much we as a community live up to the stereotypes. I tend to get eyerollitus* after getting Starbucks in West Hollywood because of it.





    *eyerollitus -made up condition where you eyeroll so much it hurts your eyes.
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  2. #152
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Are we going to have to call out Merlin for being flaming too? Is he a villian?
    Only Disney's 1963 "Sword in the Stone" Merlin isn't coded queer. If you pay attention he's done with a few tropes, but not coded queer for his era. Today, yah his style would seem that way, but he's done as the kindly grandfather, he has a lot of masculine pursuits, to include having a few very hetero moments. He's eccentric without going queer.
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  3. #153
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    maybe, just maybe, emet is straight-coded. he may look like gay to some people but for most straight people he just looks straight.
    Most characters in this game dont show an explicit proof for their sexuality. So if you want to see straight people then they look straight for you. if you want to see gay people then alphinaud (or other characters) may look gay to you.
    And if you want to see stereotypical gay people or people who are yelling in our face that they are gay to feel represented (because otherwise it would be too subtle to recognize) then you may only see straight people because most characters are neither straight nor gay (because its not shown)

    i mean how should it be? should the numbers be like in our world? then we should applie a rule that any character without explicit proof is straight so that we can have a natural ratio between straight/gay. Or do you want to be overrepresented to the point that every second character is LGBTQ+? We cant count 'neutral' characters as straight nor gay. so we need a LOT of additional characters that represent every possible sexuality. After that we have gender and skincolour. Hmm.... but.... gender is a spectrum isnt it? Or thats what i heard. So we need a lot of characters for all the different people in that spectrum. And every sexuality needs someone in every colour.

    I'm sorry it feels as if a bit of my comment isnt completely appropriate. but its somehow difficult for me to messure that whole thing because i dont understand why people care so much about such things in a computer game. On one side i couldnt care less what sexuality someone has (real Person or character in a game) because it doesnt affect me. Everyone should be what he wants to be and in a game it just should be a good story/character/romance/friendship whatever. On the other side.... all these minorities inside minorities (i firmly believe these loud people are just a small part of their 'faction') who are crying out loud to (what it feels like) making themselves more important becames more and more annoying.
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    Last edited by Asari5; 09-08-2020 at 09:10 AM.

  4. #154
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    AngelCheese77's Avatar
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    All of you are falling for this blatant Titanmen troll post.
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    Are you even familiar with what "Queer Coded" characters are? Are you LGBTQ+? If not then, of course, you don't see it.
    Gosh, you sound so high and mighty in every post you make. Yes, I'm familiar with "Queer Coded" characters, and yes, I know what queerbaiting is too. Straight people aren't ignorant, y' know. If you ask me, you totally sound like a bitter and salty person who's not satisfied with their own situation and is taking it out on the world. You make a huge deal out of sexuality and you see and read too much into everything.
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  6. #156
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    The fact that you people are discussing straight or whatever coding in a videogame about time travelling robots and dragons from outer space is very bizarre to me. lol
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  7. #157
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    Pretty sure OP hasn't played against the "last boss" of 5.3 yet. Woman body, male voice. Nuff said ;P
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  8. #158
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    T'alarea Taraf
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    gw2 has a canon lesbian couple they even kissed in a cutscene and they are very open about it. I know ffxiv may can't have open lgbtq as much because they want there game worldwide. and sadly there are still certain countries were that is illegal. (china,Russia) I hope one day that won't be so much of an issue
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  9. #159
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    This is a fantasy game. If the fantasy doesn't match your particular fetish, perhaps look elsewhere.
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    This person is a known troll for posting baiting threads and titles. You guys fell into their trap (Like I have by posting here, but I'm just warning you guys).

    Perhaps it's best to just let a mod lock/delete this thread.
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