Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[Kolsykol]

They're not against corporations, they're just unhappy with how far they are lagging behind the most insane and unhinged right wingers. I'm also unhappy to report that democrats are very much right leaning and love nothing more than to attack their own progressive wing. If they spent even half as much fervor on attacking republicans the democrats would win every major election forever against the republicans. This is why so many people in the US are so demoralized about voting. Nothing changes, the two parties are almost identical when it comes to actual policies and not just empty posturing.

Tbh, the progressive wing in the US is very extreme.
I often see people say that it's '' just like European countries '' which is just blatantly not true, most European left-wing governments have a lot more in common with the Democrats than the progressive wing.
The same goes with these social issues, things are very aggressive and moving at the speed of light in the US, it goes way further than what you see in Europe and it's not normal.

I dunno how you can say that they're almost identical too, Republicans and Democrats.
Especially when it comes to LGBTQ and womens rights, immigration, the economy, healthcare and military spending etc.
To me it just sounds like you get your view of the political parties from Twitter, Reddit, Twitch streamers or Youtubers.
If you think they're the same then you should probably read up a bit again on what their actual policies are.

I also see significantly more attacking the Democrats from the progressive wing than the other way around, including people building whole personalities around '' taking the Democratic party to task '' and using that as a gimmick.
Which is easy to say when it's coming from people who run in progressive states and essentially get handed elections towards Democrats who run in far more divided or moderate ones.

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[LaughingBanana]

Im surprised to see such a seemingly innocent request from a minority is being given "Oh not this shit again" by some in here.

I mean, does an inclusion of an LGBT character hurt anyone? Does the TC actually requested said character to hold the big "I AM GAY" banner with flashing siren as he or she is introduced? No? So why the seeming hostility towards the idea? Is it one of those "please don't politicize my game" sentiment?

I think a minority representation in something extremely popular like FFXIV is always gonna be a positive thing, and there's no need to reject the idea or to push it back due to some silly notion that it will "ruin" the game or anything like that, it's not going to hurt anyone or anything.

[MilitaryVet123]

Im surprised to see such a seemingly innocent request from a minority is being given "Oh not that shit again."

I mean, does it hurt anyone? Does the TC actually requested said character to hold the big "I AM GAY" banner as he or she is introduced? No? So why the seeming hostility towards the idea? Is it one of those "please don't politicize my game" sentiment?

The forums are incredibly toxic. There are members of the Novice Network kicking troll group on these very forums.

[Hunky]

I'm a gay dude and I feel like I got all the representation I need. I'm the protagonist after all.

[Johaandr]

Im gay and i dont really care for npc being identified "as".
Sure if they "lowkey" show it to us without being all rainbow and glitter. But honestly its not peoples problem either.

[MonsutaMan]

I mean, does an inclusion of an LGBT character hurt anyone? Does the TC actually requested said character to hold the big "I AM GAY" banner with flashing siren as he or she is introduced?

Probably what you would have to do lol.....

Kind of hard to pin point an NPC sexual preference, as supposed to say, Black or Asian NPC with sometimes standout features.

Like...what is a LGBTQ character? Ash from SoR3 was removed from the game; because he was deemed "Stereotypical gay."

[StealthPaladin]

Im surprised to see such a seemingly innocent request from a minority is being given "Oh not this shit again" by some in here.

I mean, does an inclusion of an LGBT character hurt anyone? Does the TC actually requested said character to hold the big "I AM GAY" banner with flashing siren as he or she is introduced? No? So why the seeming hostility towards the idea? Is it one of those "please don't politicize my game" sentiment?

I think a minority representation in something extremely popular like FFXIV is always gonna be a positive thing, and there's no need to reject the idea or to push it back due to some silly notion that it will "ruin" the game or anything like that, it's not going to hurt anyone or anything.

Yes actually it does hurt some people. For every person that find it to be a virtue to accept, there are 10 times more who tolerate something because they value freedom of choice -- not endorse it. Many of us believe EVERYONE should keep such preferences in the confines of their own bedroom.

To those people, such requests are basically a slap in the face. You may wish to browbeat them into feigning "acceptance" when that is not their honest opinion, but you should be thankful that such folks don't honestly want to ostracize those who think differently than themselves, so don't abuse that kindness. Then of course you also have people that would be as offended by the inclusion of such content. After that there would be the category of those offended by not explicitly taking a stance against LGBT stuff.

AFTER those groups you have a significant group of players from 13-18 whom may well be not allowed to play anymore. That's perhaps the most sad and cruel as the next generation of Final Fantasy fans.

It is unwise for commercial entities to take stances on such issues, for every special interest that is pandered to there are many more whose experience is damaged to a varying degree. Further it is rather gross for you to want them to, rather than to express their own artistic inclinations. Make your own game if you want to see your inclinations reflected.

Rather ridiculous than anyone has to tell you this. The above stratification of preferences applies to basically everything that anyone has an opinion about ever. For you to think it is OK to ask for special treatment demonstrates that the problem isn't one of you missing out on anything, but that you believe yourself special and above others. That all should bow to thy whims.

Nope

[Xirean]

Yes actually it does hurt some people. For every person that find it to be a virtue to accept, there are 10 times more who tolerate something because they value freedom of choice -- not endorse it. Many of us believe EVERYONE should keep such preferences in the confines of their own bedroom.

To those people, such requests are basically a slap in the face. You may wish to browbeat them into feigning "acceptance" when that is not their honest opinion, but you should be thankful that such folks don't honestly want to ostracize those who think differently than themselves, so don't abuse that kindness. Then of course you also have people that would be as offended by the inclusion of such content. After that there would be the category of those offended by not explicitly taking a stance against LGBT stuff.

AFTER those groups you have a significant group of players from 13-18 whom may well be not allowed to play anymore. That's perhaps the most sad and cruel as the next generation of Final Fantasy fans.

It is unwise for commercial entities to take stances on such issues, for every special interest that is pandered to there are many more whose experience is damaged to a varying degree. Further it is rather gross for you to want them to, rather than to express their own artistic inclinations. Make your own game if you want to see your inclinations reflected.

Do you get this beat out of shape seeing a gay couple in public? Must be a difficult life.

[AziraSyuren]

Do you get this beat out of shape seeing a gay couple in public? Must be a difficult life.

"I'm okay with it as long as I get to pretend it doesn't exist" arguments are the best. They're so transparent.