Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[Axxion]

Basically is it, yup.

You know what really sucks? People that post these kinds of threads ultimately hurt a lot more than the proclaimed "transphobes" that respond to it too. I'm not sure if that's the goal of the original post, and all of the responses, but that's definitely what's happening.

People champ at the bit to jump in and call people that disagree with them names instead of having a conversation (most of the time because they're incapable of having authentic thoughts and positions).

I do agree with that. When it comes to these type of topics it get very touchy and emotions are tied. They are not willing to understand the other side of the coin if you will.

[Ativan]

Why the hell are people harping on about US politics in a FFXIV thread?
Why does it need to infest everything and be everywhere.

There's so much random garbage in this thread that has nothing to do with the game at all.

It is only US politics because to some people our existence is political. But it is not. It's human rights.

[LeonKeyh]

It is only US politics because to some people our existence is political. But it is not. It's human rights.

I'm genuinely curious, what human rights do you not have that everyone else has? What laws are you fighting to be implemented to give you those rights?

[Midareyukki]

I'm genuinely curious, what human rights do you not have that everyone else has? What laws are you fighting to be implemented to give you those rights?

Have you not just heard what the Mississippi senator said? That trans people should be subjected to a firing squad? I'm not American and even I heard of that. It's not only laws giving rights, it's laws securing rights. Making sure that the laws that give rights aren't constantly violated by people who should know better.

[LeonKeyh]

Have you not just heard what the Mississippi senator said? That trans people should be subjected to a firing squad? I'm not American and even I heard of that. It's not only laws giving rights, it's laws securing rights. Making sure that the laws that give rights aren't constantly violated by people who should know better.

Good news is that the rights that Trans people already have, prevent them from being systematically murdered.

Unfortunately, freedom of speech means that people are free to show they they're useless pieces of human trash, and the stupidity of American voters keep those pieces of trash in office.

What SPECIFIC rights need to be secured? All I hear is "Someone might actually do something (that is against the rights that everyone has and would only happen in a dystopian novel because it would mean somehow redefining what a "human" is)."

[Midareyukki]

Good news is that the rights that Trans people already have, prevent them from being systematically murdered.

Unfortunately, freedom of speech means that people are free to show they they're useless pieces of human trash, and the stupidity of American voters keep those pieces of trash in office.

What SPECIFIC rights need to be secured? All I hear is "Someone might actually do something (that is against the rights that everyone has and would only happen in a dystopian novel because it would mean somehow redefining what a "human" is)."

Meh. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequence. And let's be honest, as good and well-intentioned as the US's first amendment is, there are other amendments blocking parts of it, so it's really not as sacrosanct as it sounds.

And I can't speak for the US. I don't know any of the laws there. I just know that there's quite a lot over there being repealled, and given your history with gun violence and overall people freely acting on their extreme racism and discrimination, I for sure wouldn't put it past the country to have some lacking rights or outright denial of rights. Only you can speak for the US, and I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings, but it is important that there are laws not only securing people's rights but also making sure they feel safe. Otherwise what's the point of, say, gay marriage if the moment a lesbian couple walks into civil registry they're gunned down?

Hyperbole, I know, but a) It's the US. That's REALLY the image you guys project to the world, and b) I honestly wouldn't put it past some crazy people to do so. When you have crazy people in the civil offices denying to marry them under "freedom of speech", then y'all got a problem.

Speaking on my corner of the world, yeah. We have laws in place for people to get married, but as far as I know none on gender changes or trans people in general. With a rather violent political party being too outspoken about violently murdering us. And guess which party is currently on the rise. And no, we don't have any 1st amendment securing freedom of speech, it's just implied in our constitution to be a thing. Hasn't stopped us from being a dictatorship before.

Sometimes it's not about laws securing rights. It's about safeguards. About not being buldgeoned to death for using what some consider to be the "wrong bathroom".

And isn't there a place in the US where they passed a bill saying they wanted to inspect underaged kids's privates before using a toilet? Like, again, it's not violation of rights... but it's definitely something that doesn't make anyone, straight people included, feel secure.

Quick Edit: Laws help normalize things. Don't just think laws stop at "securing rights". There's more to it than that, and you know there is.

[Ativan]

Good news is that the rights that Trans people already have, prevent them from being systematically murdered.

Unfortunately, freedom of speech means that people are free to show they they're useless pieces of human trash, and the stupidity of American voters keep those pieces of trash in office.

What SPECIFIC rights need to be secured? All I hear is "Someone might actually do something (that is against the rights that everyone has and would only happen in a dystopian novel because it would mean somehow redefining what a "human" is)."

Religious bigots can still literally murder trans people and get away with it by claiming 'gay panic'.

[Ativan]

No, I read it but the problem is your assuming that since I would read something that you have read, I would somehow come to the same conclusion. This is why you feel the need to tell people to educate themselves when not even you are educated on the subject. It's really disingenuous, and if you cared about people educating themselves, you would give them both sides of the argument and not just the side you prefer.

It's not up to you to shape their or my opinions. Guess what? Vox is incredibly biased, so you should read the other side. It's like saying to people you should only watch CCN or Fox, which is stupid watch both, and then do your research and make up your mind.

The majority of the article was the opinion and speculation of the author, and I ain't the author. I am not American; I am old-world European, and we have very different standards and values to you. What you consider homophobia and transphobia we call tame. We have a really dry sense of humour in northern Europe.

The world isn't America, and society isn't all about the LGBT community, and it shouldn't be. If people don't want certain subjects being taught in school, it shouldn't be because the only person in society who has the right to teach children and confer that right to others is the parent or guardian of the child.

The only time the state should get to decide is when that child is a ward of the state. If you don't like that too bad.

Truth has a liberal bias.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Religious bigots can still literally murder trans people and get away with it by claiming 'gay panic'.

Yeah...I'm gonna need to sources on that one. Are there some laws or something stating this is legal. Maybe some statistics or something?