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  1. #1
    Player
    Senn's Avatar
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    Leone Noir
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 65
    I never really felt the need to be represented in any game, so it's not really a matter of representation for me. I guess it's just interesting to have different types of people in the world. Makes for good world building. I enjoy it when we have different races in the game. Or different cultures. Different landscapes, architecture, clothing, cooking recipes, furniture, etc... Seeing a relationship take a different form is just one small aspect of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    If it's no big deal, why is there any freaking oppostion at all ever regarding this subject? If it doesn't matter, why are people debating against it?
    Because PC culture is suffocating and people are tired of having an ideology shoved down their throats. So it's understandable that people would have a kneejerk response to stuff like this. I can understand it for sure but not all ideas should be labeled as PC garbage and dismissed out of hand, either. I think it's good to center ourselves as best as we can instead of going from one extreme to the other.
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    Faafetai's Avatar
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    Tai Natuia
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 85
    I know this may sound too risk kay for final fantasy 14 but I would be happy with gasp hand holding literally of any characters any at all. It might happen in a side quest or the story at some point but everything is so plutonic in a lot of things there is never confirmation of literally any relationships. Sure there are tons of fan art of such things but just one! One thing even subtly confirmed. The only times so far that this has happened is to our WoL and everyone we have a plutonic semi almost romantic relationship with they
    die!
    We can't even get to the 'I really like you, like you' phase before someone just kills over. At least I got to hold Hauchefaut's hand, Zenos who may or not be on some peoples list keeps dying, Emet for me right now is dead (my best friend T_T), Gaius isn't even an option because they make the WoL growl at him like an angry guard dog randomly at least less so after the events of the whole Ultimate weapon saga, and Kitty boy crystal exarch G'raha Tia that had a cute moment in shadowbringers. Urianger and Thancred are the best but we seem to be friend zoned. Gosetsu is such a cutie but he's off on some grand adventure right now post shadowbringers. No one mentioned there are not many women crushing on the WoL unless I am missing someone. Feo Ul maybe? Y'shtola would friend zone the WoL. I am not complaining but just thought of this not many women seem to crush on the WoL within the story. I might not be reading too much into the dialogue so maybe there are subtle things said, but can not recall them at the moment
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    QueenKitty's Avatar
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    Innocence Infinitum
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    Sophia
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    all of u are forgetting the aesthetician. pls go look at jandelaine smh.
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    Nekokaori's Avatar
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    Kaori Yurei
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by QueenKitty View Post
    all of u are forgetting the aesthetician. pls go look at jandelaine smh.
    a movement lol doesnt mean anything also the reason why im not even going to mention the bs in heldibrand quest
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    Schield's Avatar
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    Makali Mol
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    1. As a straight white dude, the one thing I literally do not care about is a character's sexuality. Is this an LGBTQ -insert the insane amount of random characters here- thing? You can't enjoy a story unless there's "someone like me"?
    One of my favorite podcasts is Welcome to Night Vale. Starring a gay host. I can't remember if there even were straight people in that podcast. They also made Alice isn't Dead, which was also a pretty good podcast starring lesbian characters (season 3 was very meh).
    I don't go into a story demanding that there be representation for me nor do I look for it. Why do you have to? Do you think that there's perhaps something wrong with being the way you are and need some sort of outside validation?

    2. Representation is not a positive or negative thing. It simply is. If you can do it naturally, it is a good thing. The way most people want it is a negative thing. (See: ticking box argument)

    3. There's like 1-5% of the population that isn't straight. You are not likely to run into someone else that is not straight. If you want an accurate representation of that, then of course there's not going to be many people like you.

    4. It is not normal. If it was, you and I wouldn't be here to be having this discussion as the human race would've died out with the first generation.
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    Ryutaro Mori
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    Omega
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Schield View Post
    There's like 1-5% of the population that isn't straight. You are not likely to run into someone else that is not straight. If you want an accurate representation of that, then of course there's not going to be many people like you.
    Well glad to know that every piece of media should have 1-5% of the cast be not-straight then!
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    Lea Peridot
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    Gilgamesh
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    Except it’s already extremely highly prevalent. There are quite a few ways Squeenix has acquiesced to that particular community (same sex marriage, incorporating glamour gear that can be work by both genders, bunny bois that were very much for a particular player base, the constant alphabet warrior ERP bar ads…the list goes on) quite a lot. You have to ask yourself, at what point does your vision of the game infringe on the developers or other players? What if neither want an over prevalence of this for simple sake of immersion breaking factors? Not to mention that this game very sparingly if ever makes mention of anyone’s sexuality as it has little to nothing to do with the game.
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    Player Velvet_Lunarfang's Avatar
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    Morgan Blackhart
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    Maduin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    It's game stop whining over irl stuff. Just play it and be happy why do people want irl agendas in their game. The world sucks as is I play games to escape
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    Ryutaro Mori
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    Omega
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    It's game stop whining over irl stuff. Just play it and be happy why do people want irl agendas in their game. The world sucks as is I play games to escape
    You play the game to escape the gays?
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    Albeva Vongodric
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    Lich
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    Reaper Lv 100
    As a gay guy - I honestly don't care if the game has no "presentation". I want to play a good game, stop shovelling "The Message" into everything. I rather enjoy that game is for the most part aromantic. Leaves plenty of room for imagination.
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