Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[Raoabolic]

Many cis-straight people don't actually want to interact with a lgtbq storyline, even if they claim to be accepting.

And many lgtbq people refuse to interact with a "cis" straight storyline, even if they claim to be accepting. We can do this song and dance until the end of time but at the end of the day if it doesn't have anything to do with the story then who cares? Fanfiction exists, go wild. Now bury this thread.

[deadman1204]

And many lgtbq people refuse to interact with a "cis" straight storyline, even if they claim to be accepting. We can do this song and dance until the end of time but at the end of the day if it doesn't have anything to do with the story then who cares? Fanfiction exists, go wild. Now bury this thread.

Lol, what planet are you from? EVERY reference to a guy having a wife or woman having a husband is a straight story line. Its literally impossible to not interact with straight story lines. And news flash, no one objects to these and never has. Yet this thread is full of people saying "no social justice", and "devs should just make good game", and stuff like that - which totally ignores that virtually every story caters to them already.

[Xavier_Firbold]

Lol, what planet are you from? EVERY reference to a guy having a wife or woman having a husband is a straight story line. Its literally impossible to not interact with straight story lines. And news flash, no one objects to these and never has. Yet this thread is full of people saying "no social justice", and "devs should just make good game", and stuff like that - which totally ignores that virtually every story caters to them already.

You don't get out much if you think that's the truth.

[Denji]

Ryne and Gaia embrace eachother in front of a rainbow crystal while rainbow flower pedals fly out like confetti.

Zenos has an attack called Tryst he uses on even male players.

Carpenter questline has the gayest two dudes I've ever seen.

[deadman1204]

Ryne and Gaia embrace eachother in front of a rainbow crystal while rainbow flower pedals fly out like confetti.

Zenos has an attack called Tryst he uses on even male players.

Carpenter questline has the gayest two dudes I've ever seen.

Notice how all of these are written in code? None of them come out to say it?

[Denji]

Notice how all of these are written in code? None of them come out to say it?

I don't think the Ryne and Gaia one could be any more blatant, especially with what Ryne says during the last fight.

[Alaray]

Notice how all of these are written in code? None of them come out to say it?

While I think this thread is pretty ancient in it's discussion, I do want to point out that coding characters is used as a narrative tool as blatantly saying something isn't always the most natural choice to go with in a story. Which, I think people don't tend to think about much when they do criticize narrative instances (and, at times, characters can be unintentionally coded -- like, as far as I know, Gwyndolin the Dark Sun from Dark Souls wasn't intended to resonate the way he did with a lot of trans people, but that character did as the character's story/motives/presentations are extremely relatable to a lot of trans folk, since Gwyndolin's overarching narrative is extremely trans even if people who can't relate, or don't relate, to those things won't notice it).

[wereotter]

Notice how all of these are written in code? None of them come out to say it?

I don't think you need to have someone come out and say it in order for it to be true. I don't go around announcing to everyone I meet that I'm gay, and a realistic character in this game wouldn't do that either. There's any number of NPCs in this game that COULD be gay, but you're buying into the narrative that default is straight until told otherwise, when really you should never assume either way until you actually know.

And when you look at it from that angle, very few characters in this game have explicitly told us they're straight through us seeing their love interests (and even then they still could be bisexual)

We don't need to be explicitly told, it should just be shown when it becomes relevant for us to know.

[Misplaced_Marbles]

I don't think you need to have someone come out and say it in order for it to be true. I don't go around announcing to everyone I meet that I'm gay, and a realistic character in this game wouldn't do that either.

Very true, but you see, it's never enough for these people on the internet, unless the character(s) state it at least once during every conversation and stop the flow of the story to wax on about who they're into every paragraph. It's just grotesque bastardizing of feelings.

Then again, maybe they act like that in real life? That'd be............weird.

[Adamantini]

The fact is, the game doesn't make anyone's sexuality clear, and there are a number of characters you can assume are LGBT+, from secondary characters like Jandelaine and Gaia to major characters like Aymeric, Ryne, and Graha.
But that's never enough, it seems that the importance of knowing the sexuality of character X and Y is greater than anything else. Like "wow, blizzard assumed that Soldier 76 is LGBT+"...ok, so what? Did anything change in the game? He keeps acting like he's just a war old man, as far as I've played, he never mentioned it in the game.
I'll leave my comment here, just to say that I warned: you will end up making the company create super stereotyped characters, who say every 5 minutes that they are LGBT+, and then you will complain that you are being disrespected.
And before you distort what I'm saying (because I know it's going to happen), I don't care if the character is LGBT or not. I care about the story, whether it's interesting or not. Because of that, I think a natural character is much better than super stereotypical characters.