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  1. #1
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    Disappointed that private individuals can purchase housing plots in 5.35

    The last time new housing wards were available, it was limited to FCs at first and everything was fine. On all but the most populated servers plots remained available for individuals when it's their turn. Now, however, it seems that FCs need to compete with private individuals for housing. Not only is this unjust as it rewards rich individual players with huge amounts of gil and punish FCs with mostly casual players trying to amass their gil together to purchase a house together, we also cannot forget that individual housing are intentionally limited.

    They cannot use airships or submersibles because SE decided that there needs to be a penalty to individual housing to disincentivize private players from purchasing them and nudge them towards grouping together in free company housing to enjoy the social aspect of the game. Private housing is anti-social, while free company housing is social. This is one reason why we should be prioritizing free company housing before personal housing.

    Furthermore, allowing private housing to go first means it disproportionately rewards private crafters and/or gatherers who have the means to make the most gil, which is unfair to players who are more casual. It might not seem apparent why this is the case at first, but consider this scenario: a medium housing plot goes for sale at 17.5M gil, which is a huge sum of gil for all but the most dedicated of players. A private crafter or gatherer can easily afford that gil, and veteran players who have played this game for years can easily afford that even without crafting/gathering. But to casual players who play this game for a few hours per week, that amount of gil is an extreme cost. Now, an FC with 10 casual players can afford that cost by paying 1.75M gil each, which is more on the affordable side that even most casual players can afford. So if SE allows private individuals to purchase housing at the same time as FCs, that means more casual players who may not have that much gil are disadvantaged while players who are already very rich are advantaged.

    Finally, most private individuals already belong to an FC. They already enjoy the content that FC housing brings: such as gardening, airships, and decoration. Allowing them to get another house just for themselves is unfair to FCs who do not have a house yet.

    I hope SE will seriously reconsider this decision.
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    I'll comment about it not being social...
    So? What are private individuals supposed to do? All hang out with the entire server in a very crowded Limsa Laminsa at the Aetherite? Yuck! Gross! Listen to the endless spam of the RMT, the stupid competition of who can spam the most annoying emotes, and the awful conversation that is just utter nonsense? No thank you! I like my house and apartment!
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    Elan Centauri
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    Limiting it to FCs only was not fine. The entire system isn't fine though, to be fair. However, I do think that with how often they add new wards (which isn't often at all) they should open these wards up to anyone and everyone with housing hopes and dreams. Granted, they will all be gone before most people can actually log in but the dream would still be alive until they did!

    Quote Originally Posted by MilitaryVet123 View Post
    Finally, most private individuals already belong to an FC. They already enjoy the content that FC housing brings: such as gardening, airships, and decoration. Allowing them to get another house just for themselves is unfair to FCs who do not have a house yet.
    Also, no, not everyone in an FC gets to enjoy that content. All of that stuff is usually limited to a small circle of friends at most.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 08-31-2020 at 11:24 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    They had close to 3 months last ward release which was totally unacceptable in my view. Sorry but private owners shouldn't be relegated to having to click a placard with 20 other people to get a house opened by demolition. Private FC's are way too common and the time allocated to FC priority has allowed some to buy complete wards with 60 houses to themselves.

    SE needs to fix it so only one FC house can be purchased per account. They've done it for privates and need to do the same for FC's.

    I have friends who are looking forward to 5.35 although it will be a mad house when the servers open and I'm sure we'll have tons of threads complaining about getting booted, instances that are full and so on but at least they'll have a shot at a direct purchase.
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    I keep reading the title of this thread as "pirate individuals."

    Please let pirates own houses too! #arrrlivesmatter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabril View Post
    I'll comment about it not being social...
    So? What are private individuals supposed to do? All hang out with the entire server in a very crowded Limsa Laminsa at the Aetherite? Yuck! Gross! Listen to the endless spam of the RMT, the stupid competition of who can spam the most annoying emotes, and the awful conversation that is just utter nonsense? No thank you! I like my house and apartment!
    You can be social in your FC house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitaryVet123 View Post
    You can be social in your FC house.
    I think what he's getting at is that there are players who aren't in a FC, don't want to be in a FC or finds it easier to socialize outside the FC.

    With that said I must point out that apartments are a thing, and also that some people would likely wanna own a house for RP reasons (and we cannot guarantee RPers would be in an FC with like minded folk).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Also, no, not everyone in an FC gets to enjoy that content. All of that stuff is usually limited to a small circle of friends at most.
    This! So much this! I won't join an FC unless I am promised access to the workshop. I make so much money there! But yeah most people don't know anything about it because they aren't given access.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitaryVet123 View Post
    You can be social in your FC house.
    I don't like the decorations. I like my house better
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    "Everything was fine"
    Yes thats why we see countless folks selling FC houses on the PF.
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