Conclusion: We really like FATES, but lie to ourselves.

[WhyAmIHere]

I must be an outlier then. I hate FATEs, even when there is a reward. I still haven't finished every ShB zone, and I am missing one of the nicer little pets, because I won't do it. I'll get to it eventually, probably. I won't do them, unless there is some sort of substantial reward, or purpose. Like, when ShB first came out, I would use it as supplemental exp gain, doing FATEs inbetween queues. Eureka I only did, because of the rewards, but the eureka community (when I did it) wasn't too bad, cooperative, amd you would see the same faces quite often, it was a little fun. FATEs in the world don't really compare. I still have yet to do the Yokai event, and I was here during it's last iteration, I just kept putting it off, and am now putting it off. I need to get to it though, the rewards would be nice to collect.

Im not doing the yokai event, but that's also because I just dont care about it.
I didn't complete the ShB shared fates, because I just dont care.
I did every step of eureka on content.

The problem with FATES, and why I enjoyed Eureka more than I do fates, is because when you're doing fates you're doing them instead of literally anything else in the overworld. wanna craft? do a raid? put up a meme PF? run a roulette? You can do fates while you wait / in the meanwhile.

Whereas eureka that's /all/ you had to do once you were in there. No roulettes, no raiding, no meme PFs, no nothing but you, everyone else, and fates.
The social aspect of eureka was fostered by this shared understanding of "well, what the F else are we gonna do but meme and socialize?"

So maybe it'd be more appropriate for me to have said fates when done well and done in a way that foments social interaction are a good thing. When they can be done in lieu of or in tandem with other things they lose that sense of purpose besides just... being there.